Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Details Coming Next Week

[redsfan4life]

In my humble opinion this years game is a great improvement. Last year I played Madden 09 on PS3 for about a week. This year I'm still playing and enjoying it quite a bit, still waiting to hear about the patch but even without it I'd enjoy this game. Kudos to the new development team, they got this ship on the right track.

[gabs485]

I have real respect for the team, this is the best madden in a long time. What I don't understand is that things that were not broken in previous years are suddenly broken now. E.g. stadium specific stadium, qb real voices, franchise stats. Player progression, catching and running animations. Also the fact that suction blocking has not been fix since the genesis version is very frustrating. But I do reckon this year version is the best since 2005

[mike24forever]

[quote=johnkorean;2040316172]I don't really like analogies since there's always too many elements for 2 scenarios to really be comparable. My analogy doesn't work and neither does yours.

Basically, my argument is this:

1. We all had the opportunity to rent the game before we bought it. No one held a gun to our heads and told us to buy the game at the midnight release.

2. Just because we want something doesn't entitle us to it. It is not EA's responsibility to make the perfect Madden just because we want a perfect Madden. The vast majority of customers are more than happy to play through the glitches and never even download the patches because they don't care. It is this niche minority that is asking for a cost-ineffective level of detail in order to satisfy the minority's belief that they deserve someone else's hard work.

Well said. Ever since the developers have been openly posting here (OS), the number of new members complaining about the game have increased dramatically. That is why I agree so much with what you said. Everyone has a choice to buy the game or not. Just because there is no alternative does not warrant the complaining and childish rants we have seen on these boards. We are fortunate to have developers listening, let alone patches for the game. That being said, I would love to there to be no need for patches, they have become a norm for the industry. Not just sport games.

[stanley roper]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueNGold

Well that's a big part of the problem. People bitched and moaned for years to get handtowels, team colored cleats, etc, etc and now that they are in the game people turn around and say "why did you put that in? You should have been working on gameplay!" So its basically a lose, lose for the dev team because people ask for one thing, they put that in and then people complain about them spending time on that. Another thing is probably 99% of us have no idea how difficult it is to make a game, let alone a sports game or more specifically a football game. This is, imo, a big reason why Ian stopped posting as frequently on these boards. You work your *** off for a year and then people go and **** all over your hard work when they really don't know how difficult it is to do what the dev team does.

Tell that to the people of SCEA who made the best baseball game ever, The Show.

Tell that to NBA 2k devs.

Tell that to the EA Soccer, NHL guys.

Tell that to Fight Night devs.

go ahead.

[LAKE4742]

Quote: Originally Posted by BlueNGold

Well that's a big part of the problem. People bitched and moaned for years to get handtowels, team colored cleats, etc, etc and now that they are in the game people turn around and say "why did you put that in? You should have been working on gameplay!" So its basically a lose, lose for the dev team because people ask for one thing, they put that in and then people complain about them spending time on that. Another thing is probably 99% of us have no idea how difficult it is to make a game, let alone a sports game or more specifically a football game. This is, imo, a big reason why Ian stopped posting as frequently on these boards. You work your *** off for a year and then people go and **** all over your hard work when they really don't know how difficult it is to do what the dev team does.

It certainly isn't the communities fault, no matter what. Either EA knows what NFL football is or don't. Why would they let the community decide what a NFL football game is, when football is....football? Of course we like handtowels (because they're a part of NFL football). Of course we like competent blocking (because it's a part of NFL football). Of course we don't like Robo QB (because it's not a part of NFL football). You either know the game, or you don't. Who really playtests this game, and says "yep, WE see that on sunday!"? That 2-in-1 tackle?! NOONE sees that on sunday!
Common sense should tell EA, of course we want certain things. We want everything a part of NFL football! Duh. But, what football devs would really make handtowels higher priority over gameplay. 2K5 didn't, and is considered by most on this board as still the best. So, EA is doing this to themselves. They can take advice from whomever they wish (even OSers), but, it's gonna bite them in the ***. It's a not a lose lose situation IF they just focus on football and not sales.

[PYA-MUSTANG86]

Who said that GTA IV didn't have a title update? If I'm not mistaken didn't they actually add a few more campeigns and stories to the game through DLC? So after you beat the original you could just DL pretty much a whole new game. Yes please do some research before posting.

Well anyways, any word on if they're going to fix/add players' draft info? Kind of pointless to have gems and busts if you never know who is a gem and bust after that particular draft. Also any word on online franchise improvements? And the offline stat engine, especially having a total total tackle stat. In real life they combine a players solo and assisted tackles to determine their total tackles. If you're going to add a feature at least get said feature right. This was my main concern when I 1st heard about the assisted tackle stat, was that they would screw up how those stats were kept, and that's exactly what happened.

[LionsFanNJ]

Quote: Originally Posted by PYA-MUSTANG86

Who said that GTA IV didn't have a title update? If I'm not mistaken didn't they actually add a few more campeigns and stories to the game through DLC? So after you beat the original you could just DL pretty much a whole new game. Yes please do some research before posting. Well anyways, any word on if they're going to fix/add players' draft info? Kind of pointless to have gems and busts if you never know who is a gem and bust after that particular draft. Also any word on online franchise improvements? And the offline stat engine, especially having a total total tackle stat. In real life they combine a players solo and assisted tackles to determine their total tackles. If you're going to add a feature at least get said feature right. This was my main concern when I 1st heard about the assisted tackle stat, was that they would screw up how those stats were kept, and that's exactly what happened.

Nothing is getting fixed in the patch.

[BlueNGold]

Quote: Originally Posted by LAKE4742

It certainly isn't the communities fault, no matter what. Either EA knows what NFL football is or don't. Why would they let the community decide what a NFL football game is, when football is....football? Of course we like handtowels (because they're a part of NFL football). Of course we like competent blocking (because it's a part of NFL football). Of course we don't like Robo QB (because it's not a part of NFL football). You either know the game, or you don't. Who really playtests this game, and says "yep, WE see that on sunday!"? That 2-in-1 tackle?! NOONE sees that on sunday! Common sense should tell EA, of course we want certain things. We want everything a part of NFL football! Duh. But, what football devs would really make handtowels higher priority over gameplay. 2K5 didn't, and is considered by most on this board as still the best. So, EA is doing this to themselves. They can take advice from whomever they wish (even OSers), but, it's gonna bite them in the ***. It's a not a lose lose situation IF they just focus on football and not sales.

I never did say it was the communities' fault, I was saying how people beg and beg for something, get it and then its like "oh, who cares about that now that it is in." Also, alot of posters on here (typically the ones that seem to join OS just to hate on Madden with no constructive criticism) are just piling on with all the hate which probably was the reason Ian left these boards or at least doesn't post as frequently.

About EA knowing football or not, who are we to say if they do? We don't know that. What I was trying to say in my post about the difficulty of making a game was that yeah, it sounds simple to just go in and say "Let's fix the blocking" but it is probably a hell of alot easier said than done. I can't imagine what its like having to work on all that code and stuff when if you do one thing wrong, it messes up half the game.