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RaychelSnr · 09-30-2009, 12:45 PM

The NBA Live 10 demo has been out for quite a while now, but with the release of Live 10 just a week away, we felt it was time to roll out some final thoughts on the demo.

Contributing to this roundtable: Steven Bartlett, Christian McLeod, TD St. Matthew-Daniel, Jayson Young.

Read More - NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable

Nature_Boy · 09-30-2009, 01:27 PM

Good read.

Jamesmaster · 09-30-2009, 01:30 PM

To each his own, but some comments seem questionable to say the least, especially the one about the lack of mid-game and the game being more arcade than sim.
I've been playing 2K8-9 and Live 08 for the last 2 years and I can easily say that Live 10 shapes up to be the most realistic bball game I've ever played. Finally a game that relies more on mid-range shooting than on easy points in the paint and dunks every 2 seconds.

The 24th Letter · 09-30-2009, 01:35 PM

Good to finally read a honest, unbiased look at the game...we agree as well as disagree on some points...overall a great read...

Playmakers · 09-30-2009, 01:40 PM

I agree with the guy St. Matthew-Daniel:

It still feels like a video game to me aswell because of the AI. They are lifeless. It might change next week but right now i thought these guys were honest with their opinion.

coachlenny · 09-30-2009, 02:38 PM

I played Live on Monday at a Ciroc Event in Chicago. I played two full games. I have to say i was impressed at how the game flowed. The spacing was good on the floor and the controls i thought were outstanding. Visually the game looked very impressive meaning the game was much more alive than the usual dull feeling I had playing Live 09. It reminded me of 2k9 with the crowd going crazy but it seem to flow with the action. Gameplay wise I think the playcalling aspect really wins me over. With this game there seems to be more of a strategy than in any basketball game i have ever played. I played with the Bulls against the Spurs and the Cavs vs the Celtics. With both teams I worked the ball inside out and came up with good shots and won both games. My opponents tried to run and gun up and down the court and when that didnt work for them they said the game was wack and kept talking about how 2k was better.

I am not a 2k guy (absolutely hate isomotion) or a Live guy (bad animations and bad game flow) although I purchase the 2k game every year. But I will say after playing Live 10, I am going to buy this game. There is no doubt about it. It made me play a different type of basketball for a videogame. Im not saying it is the best because i still dont like the players bodies (too thin) and some of the players role players didnt seem to have their own swagger but this game seemed fresh and it sold me. All my friends a 2kers and have been a long time so i will be buying 2k10 (hate isomotion) but I will be purchasing the Live 10 game. I say give the game a chance this year, its not the dunkfest I thought it was going to be. But then again 2k9 was a dunkfest to me. Hopefully this will help some you guys i dont usually post but I thought that since I played, i can give you an idea of how the game went for me
peace
PS: the replays looked incredible and when you get a fast break it just feels right
Peace

TreyIM2 · 09-30-2009, 02:56 PM

I've been playing the demo like crazy, virtually everyday since it dropped and, at first, I wasn't really impressed because I noticed legacy issues with steal/rebound button lag and lack of responsiveness, "no look" steals, and slight robotic movement and, possibly, all the hype may have got the best of me but the more I played realized what EA did with this Live, more and more, which made me love the game.

The biggest addition, to me, is momentum on offense. It affects your shot, your movement where if you have to much of it going and you run into a player, u can lose the ball and, basically, forces you to play more controlled on O. It's not so much on D, though, but I do like how they force you to play good D and even holding the defensive assist button doesn't guarantee lock down D. YOU have to play D, knowing the player your controlling, your angles, the player your up against, where your help is, yada. I think A LOT of people aren't getting that and then they make statements that the game is "arcadish". No, it's not arcadish. People are just used to the past and status quo and can't get their heads around deeper b-ball game play.

The Live 10 demo made me officially retire from NBA2K. Live 10 is fresh, evolutionary, I have more control than ever and it's progressive and as for the CPU defensive faux paus, I credit that to the fact that DNA is not being fully implemented plus, it's just a demo. We won't see that in full glory til regular season starts so I give the CPU a pass. I just hope some of the responsiveness is improved upon in the retail version. Can't wait til Tues!!

JkA3 · 09-30-2009, 03:08 PM

That was a good read. Seemed unbias too, which is nice.

09-30-2009, 12:45 PM	#1
RaychelSnr Executive Editor OVR: 57 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 4,846 Blog Entries: 490	NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable The NBA Live 10 demo has been out for quite a while now, but with the release of Live 10 just a week away, we felt it was time to roll out some final thoughts on the demo. Contributing to this roundtable: Steven Bartlett, Christian McLeod, TD St. Matthew-Daniel, Jayson Young. Read More - NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable Platform: Xbox 360 / PS3 / PSP

09-30-2009, 01:27 PM	#2
Nature_Boy 16 Time World Champion OVR: 30 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gotham City Posts: 930 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable Good read.

09-30-2009, 01:30 PM	#3
Jamesmaster Rookie OVR: 4 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Belgium	Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable To each his own, but some comments seem questionable to say the least, especially the one about the lack of mid-game and the game being more arcade than sim. I've been playing 2K8-9 and Live 08 for the last 2 years and I can easily say that Live 10 shapes up to be the most realistic bball game I've ever played. Finally a game that relies more on mid-range shooting than on easy points in the paint and dunks every 2 seconds.

09-30-2009, 01:35 PM	#4
The 24th Letter ERA OVR: 38 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 39,395	Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Roundtable Good to finally read a honest, unbiased look at the game...we agree as well as disagree on some points...overall a great read...

09-30-2009, 01:40 PM	#5
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09-30-2009, 02:38 PM	#6
coachlenny Rookie OVR: 9 Join Date: Oct 2008 Blog Entries: 1	I played Live on Monday at a Ciroc Event in Chicago. I played two full games. I have to say i was impressed at how the game flowed. The spacing was good on the floor and the controls i thought were outstanding. Visually the game looked very impressive meaning the game was much more alive than the usual dull feeling I had playing Live 09. It reminded me of 2k9 with the crowd going crazy but it seem to flow with the action. Gameplay wise I think the playcalling aspect really wins me over. With this game there seems to be more of a strategy than in any basketball game i have ever played. I played with the Bulls against the Spurs and the Cavs vs the Celtics. With both teams I worked the ball inside out and came up with good shots and won both games. My opponents tried to run and gun up and down the court and when that didnt work for them they said the game was wack and kept talking about how 2k was better. I am not a 2k guy (absolutely hate isomotion) or a Live guy (bad animations and bad game flow) although I purchase the 2k game every year. But I will say after playing Live 10, I am going to buy this game. There is no doubt about it. It made me play a different type of basketball for a videogame. Im not saying it is the best because i still dont like the players bodies (too thin) and some of the players role players didnt seem to have their own swagger but this game seemed fresh and it sold me. All my friends a 2kers and have been a long time so i will be buying 2k10 (hate isomotion) but I will be purchasing the Live 10 game. I say give the game a chance this year, its not the dunkfest I thought it was going to be. But then again 2k9 was a dunkfest to me. Hopefully this will help some you guys i dont usually post but I thought that since I played, i can give you an idea of how the game went for me peace PS: the replays looked incredible and when you get a fast break it just feels right Peace

09-30-2009, 02:56 PM	#7
TreyIM2 MVP OVR: 30 Join Date: Apr 2009 Blog Entries: 24	I've been playing the demo like crazy, virtually everyday since it dropped and, at first, I wasn't really impressed because I noticed legacy issues with steal/rebound button lag and lack of responsiveness, "no look" steals, and slight robotic movement and, possibly, all the hype may have got the best of me but the more I played realized what EA did with this Live, more and more, which made me love the game. The biggest addition, to me, is momentum on offense. It affects your shot, your movement where if you have to much of it going and you run into a player, u can lose the ball and, basically, forces you to play more controlled on O. It's not so much on D, though, but I do like how they force you to play good D and even holding the defensive assist button doesn't guarantee lock down D. YOU have to play D, knowing the player your controlling, your angles, the player your up against, where your help is, yada. I think A LOT of people aren't getting that and then they make statements that the game is "arcadish". No, it's not arcadish. People are just used to the past and status quo and can't get their heads around deeper b-ball game play. The Live 10 demo made me officially retire from NBA2K. Live 10 is fresh, evolutionary, I have more control than ever and it's progressive and as for the CPU defensive faux paus, I credit that to the fact that DNA is not being fully implemented plus, it's just a demo. We won't see that in full glory til regular season starts so I give the CPU a pass. I just hope some of the responsiveness is improved upon in the retail version. Can't wait til Tues!!

09-30-2009, 03:08 PM	#8
JkA3 Strategy OVR: 36 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Denver Posts: 858 Blog Entries: 3	That was a good read. Seemed unbias too, which is nice.