NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by HMcCoy

Funny how Live is never "hideous" until right before the new one drops, lol. Over the last 3 seasons, Playmakers has put in more work for the Live community than any non-dev on this site. Please show the man some respect.

I used to defend the game with my life...........

I never really posted much negative feedback about Live. I think the game was getting ripped so bad a few years ago that me speaking bad about it or pointing out game play flaws wasn't needed because 1000's of guys were already taking care of that aspect.

I just tried to keep things positive for the guys who did want to enjoy the game. But now the game has come along way and it doesn't need anyone to defend it because it's a legitimate B-Ball game.

NO THE GAME DOESN'T NEED MAJOR EDITS ANYMORE



My gripes are now mostly directed at the CPU AI which I think is the last step towards making LIVE GREAT again.

I don't get to speak to EA developers so i have no idea what they are doing or plannning to do with the CPU/AI. I don't post negative feedback to upset the Live community or it's fan base. My only intentions are to provide feedback about things that might be good or bad in hopes that one day it leads to the most amazing basketball game we've seen.

You can't reach greatness if no one ever points out your weaknesses. That is how the NHL series became great again and that is IMO how Madden became great again this year. They had fans that were critical of their product and they listend.

Just because Live 10 is going to be a very good game doesn't mean we should stop being critical if we expect them to be GREAT in the future. There's a strong chance our actions or concerns might not change a thing in Live 10.

But who's to say it won't be re-evaluated for Live 11 if the developers agree that those are legitimate complaints that we have in general.

[donkey33]

Much respect to all those who have put work in over the years (not intended but in case I offend somehow) but some people are born to critique and there's nothing wrong with that. That's why we have forums to discuss, etc.

I used to be concerned with sliders and tweaks and this and that. All it lead to was me wasting money on both games every year because I'd forget the reason I get them and only play a handful of games before discarding them. Not any more. No more sliders, no more edits, I'm just going to enjoy the games.

We need guys like Playmakers to improve the game and give developers insights into how to tinker with it to make it better. No offense intended but I don't even read his posts anymore. They are too long, too involved and for me, I'm not into these edits anymore but for others, they are a great insight.

Much power to everyone and their 'good' intentions on this forum and we shouldn't question those kind of intentions.

Peace

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

I used to defend the game with my life........... I never really posted much negative feedback about Live. I think the game was getting ripped so bad a few years ago that me speaking bad about it or pointing out game play flaws wasn't needed because 1000's of guys were already taking care of that aspect. I just tried to keep things positive for the guys who did want to enjoy the game. But now the game has come along way and it doesn't need anyone to defend it because it's a legitimate B-Ball game. NO THE GAME DOESN'T NEED MAJOR EDITS ANYMORE My gripes are now mostly directed at the CPU AI which I think is the last step towards making LIVE GREAT again. I don't get to speak to EA developers so i have no idea what they are doing or plannning to do with the CPU/AI. I don't post negative feedback to upset the Live community or it's fan base. My only intentions are to provide feedback about things that might be good or bad in hopes that one day it leads to the most amazing basketball game we've seen. You can't reach greatness if no one ever points out your weaknesses. That is how the NHL series became great again and that is IMO how Madden became great again this year. They had fans that were critical of their product and they listend. Just because Live 10 is going to be a very good game doesn't mean we should stop being critical if we expect them to be GREAT in the future. There's a strong chance our actions or concerns might not change a thing in Live 10. But who's to say it won't be re-evaluated for Live 11 if the developers agree that those are legitimate complaints that we have in general.

Couldn't agree more. Nice to see some long-time live heads giving their real input, instead of sugar-coating the "truth" as a few have done here.

I think with the amount of work put into the offense that there's a positive vibe going into next year... but we still have an actual full release we need to wait for before we start being too critical. Many of our concerns could be addressed in the final build, which would make all this discussion moot.

[Behindshadows]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

I used to defend the game with my life........... I never really posted much negative feedback about Live. I think the game was getting ripped so bad a few years ago that me speaking bad about it or pointing out game play flaws wasn't needed because 1000's of guys were already taking care of that aspect. I just tried to keep things positive for the guys who did want to enjoy the game. But now the game has come along way and it doesn't need anyone to defend it because it's a legitimate B-Ball game. NO THE GAME DOESN'T NEED MAJOR EDITS ANYMORE My gripes are now mostly directed at the CPU AI which I think is the last step towards making LIVE GREAT again. I don't get to speak to EA developers so i have no idea what they are doing or plannning to do with the CPU/AI. I don't post negative feedback to upset the Live community or it's fan base. My only intentions are to provide feedback about things that might be good or bad in hopes that one day it leads to the most amazing basketball game we've seen. You can't reach greatness if no one ever points out your weaknesses. That is how the NHL series became great again and that is IMO how Madden became great again this year. They had fans that were critical of their product and they listend. Just because Live 10 is going to be a very good game doesn't mean we should stop being critical if we expect them to be GREAT in the future. There's a strong chance our actions or concerns might not change a thing in Live 10. But who's to say it won't be re-evaluated for Live 11 if the developers agree that those are legitimate complaints that we have in general.

100% Agree and definitely with this part! So on that note, my bad brotha! Preach on or should I say, keep evaluating and explaining the mistakes.

[dat swag]

Can't really address the demo because of the obvious fact that its a demo...I think once the retail game drops and we see the strengths and weaknesses then will be the time to offer all of the much needed suggestions and critiques.

My critiques will be solely based on head 2 head and online play because I don't play the CPU so often the stuff that alot of guys see I'll never experience because its predominantly CPU/AI problems while they play the CPU.

[23bluesman]

That was a great post HOLLIDAY.

Oh and EA, hire Playmakers!

[ezmoney707]

Quick question. What is thing about storylines in the game? I've seen it in write ups about the game. And i was wonder what they meant by this concept.

[Flightwhite24]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23bluesman

That was a great post HOLLIDAY. Oh and EA, hire Playmakers!

He might kill sales with his knowledge of how this game actually works, plus he tells to much of the truth. PM and I have discussed things over the past 4-5 years about this game that people swear by the birth of their children that he is wrong because EA said so LOL!!!!!!.

EA let the guy help get this game to the top. If he could work on ratings alone and nothing else just to get the players to play to their ratings and this game would sell like hotcakes at IHOP.