NBA Live 10 Exclusive Video: Czarisode 2: Season 2

[mz3v3ry504]

i'm in awe i can't wait for the demo tomoro Live has really stepped it up with control animations. i just finished playing the arcade trail of the 2k draft combine and i must say that i wasn't impressed at all with anything i loved 2k9 but Live 10 has me sold u guys have my 59.99 (plus tax) lol

[trobinson97]

That was a hot vid Czar. I gotta admit, Live is looking right this year. The fact that they got you boosting it with your vids helps a lot too. I gotta make sure not to get too caught up in Da Czarishness of it all but dag it's looking good. I'm actually kind of excited for Live. Good work man.

[JC DA KING]

Great Vid Czar as usual. I really liked that Lebron Iso on harrington where he put it behind da back and then did al dirty lol.

[Parasight]

Everything sounds good, but I'm a little nervous about all this momentum/control in the user's hands could prove to be abusive. It's beginning to sound like defending your man with the ball is going to be too tough.

[Bornindamecca]

Quote: Originally Posted by Parasight

Everything sounds good, but I'm a little nervous about all this momentum/control in the user's hands could prove to be abusive. It's beginning to sound like defending your man with the ball is going to be too tough.

2 things--

1. We haven't seen a breakdown of how defense works, so let's not assume anything and see what we get tomorrow, and in the final release.

2. It should be pretty difficult to stay in front of Devin, Parker, Rose, Kobe, etc. The key is helping out on those guys. With the PGs, you have to funnel them towards the help and rotate, but Tony and Devin blow by their guys pretty regularly. It's about limiting the extreme blow-bys, and not letting it happen in an area where there is no help D. Pushing a PG towards a crowd actually works towards your advantage.

With the Kobe/Wade type guys, you simply cannot guard them 1-on-1. It doesn't work, it's never worked and it is the fast track to losing. If you look at the Boston/LA Finals, they had Kobe trapped on the strong side of the court with four people all game. The Denver series really broke down when Kobe forced them to consistently double team him after breaking down Dahntay and JR Smith play after play. So with these guys, you either choose to put height on them, and help out on penetration, or you put a fast defender on them and try to live with the jumper, and help out in the post.

The bigger issue is that the help defense is wired to suit a system where these players have their real life advantages in one-on-one matchups without us being subjected to "crossover/dunk" or "crossover/point in the paint" scenarios on a regular basis.

[Wiffyjustus]

Quote: Originally Posted by ronnieb

back on topic, this game seems unreal, as a 2K player for the past 5 years it feels frech and gameplay innovative. locomotion, Improved AI (i mean wade and pierce isoing you is just great), off ball movement looks real and tight gameplay ... Do you guys feel like this one could be special i mean ala NFL 2K5, NBA 2K7 or wining eleven 7? cant wait for the demo

Yes, I have that feeling, but only time will tell.

Right now it's got a lot of hype to live up to.

Czar's excitement adds credibility to the hype

One can only hope.

[authentic24]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bornindamecca

2 things-- 1. We haven't seen a breakdown of how defense works, so let's not assume anything and see what we get tomorrow, and in the final release. 2. It should be pretty difficult to stay in front of Devin, Parker, Rose, Kobe, etc. The key is helping out on those guys. With the PGs, you have to funnel them towards the help and rotate, but Tony and Devin blow by their guys pretty regularly. It's about limiting the extreme blow-bys, and not letting it happen in an area where there is no help D. Pushing a PG towards a crowd actually works towards your advantage. With the Kobe/Wade type guys, you simply cannot guard them 1-on-1. It doesn't work, it's never worked and it is the fast track to losing. If you look at the Boston/LA Finals, they had Kobe trapped on the strong side of the court with four people all game. The Denver series really broke down when Kobe forced them to consistently double team him after breaking down Dahntay and JR Smith play after play. So with these guys, you either choose to put height on them, and help out on penetration, or you put a fast defender on them and try to live with the jumper, and help out in the post. The bigger issue is that the help defense is wired to suit a system where these players have their real life advantages in one-on-one matchups without us being subjected to "crossover/dunk" or "crossover/point in the paint" scenarios on a regular basis.

in short it's basketball, NBA basketball, if this was college ball i would understand some of the complaints about defense.

[HMcCoy]

The defense in these VIDEOS looks meh. I will wait until the demo, then full release to call this a real issue, but IN THE VIDEOS...since we are talking about the videos...if it's OK to mention defense, and not just the magnificence that is Live10...the defense was questionable. In the first of Czars fav moments (1:15) , PP simply stopped defending Wade. Allen challenged his shot, while PP literally stood there and did absolutely nothing. Thats the Celtics defense, and I doubt the Czar had it on anything but All-star level. The other game had frustrating warping cheats to fix that, and I don't want to see that either...but letting Wade pullup for a score in the teeth of one the leagues top defenses...In the video...without his own man doing anything whatsoever, is bad juju.

In the video. Not the full version...in the video. Since we don't have the full version, talkin about the video. Want to be clear.

When Deron beat Ridenhour, the help defender went into a block animation from the left hash (2:45) Williams went with a right handed layup on the right side of the rim...and the help decided to swat at air at least 4 feet away from the play. In the video. That tells me that near defenders are programmed to jump and swat...not to defend the shot. But maybe the full version is different.

On Brons stepback, Lee was guarding Varejao, and may have been shading Bron (we don't know where Andy was...he looks like he cut to the basket off camera, so Lee may just have been following him)..but if so, that looked great. And on Brons drive, we finally see the lowly Knicks help defense actually tries to provide real help and swats at the same general area of the ball. The other two drives were poorly contested.

In the video. Maybe not be in the real game. Maybe Czar was playing an old build before defensive AI was tuned. I respect Czars comment at the end that thse may just be isolated instances based on the vids he captured.

We'll see very shortly...