I never said 2K has anything to do with Madden's success/failure. I brought up 2K5 because like I said, alot of people think that is the best football game ever but the way those people talk about it always being so much better than Madden is annoying because they call out Madden on all of it's problems but never mention the problems that game had as well.
Don't get me wrong, I love 2K5 as well and have it sitting right next to my 360 but I'm just tired of people complaining about Madden and then bringing up 2K5 like it's the holy grail of games and act like it had no problems as if Madden is the only game that's ever had issues.