No Demo for NHL 2K10

[Keirik]

Quote: Originally Posted by kai123

And what is so wrong about Blind faith(in video games) NBA Live Fans are doing it(dunno why though). Its ok to do it but no need to attack people. I mean I was doing it with Madden until I played it then, I immediately went back to 2k9/2k5. If Savoie ends up hating the game, let him hate it, no need to attack him. As for no demo, NOT bad but NOT good either. Pros: -Too many people judge on demos so no demo makes them judge on retail version with good sliders. -Time was not taken away from original project -Demos sometimes break games for people. -Saves time and money plus NHL 10 demo waas horrible(desperate need of sliders) Cons: -People live for demos these days -The people so called on the fence(dunno what that means) weren't gonna buy 2k's game unless it had BAP mode which it doesn't. So with no demo they finally came out with the truth, " wasn't gona buy in the first place. -Marketing wasn't the greatest, now even more people rip on the marketing. -People feel like 2k is ashamed to show there new game. We should not act on how we feel people. So Savoie can think whatever he wants, its a free country, but you attacking him for Blind Faith, negro please.....

wtf, when did i attack him or even say he can't have blind faith? I was explaining to him that he honestly has blind faith based on how little we have and the aspects of this game 2k neglects in the first place like more vids, demo, info, etc. I do too. I already have the game paid in full.


What are you talking about? negro what? huh?

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by kai123

And what is so wrong about Blind faith(in video games) NBA Live Fans are doing it(dunno why though). Its ok to do it but no need to attack people. I mean I was doing it with Madden until I played it then, I immediately went back to 2k9/2k5. If Savoie ends up hating the game, let him hate it, no need to attack him. As for no demo, NOT bad but NOT good either. Pros: -Too many people judge on demos so no demo makes them judge on retail version with good sliders. -Time was not taken away from original project -Demos sometimes break games for people. -Saves time and money plus NHL 10 demo waas horrible(desperate need of sliders) Cons: -People live for demos these days -The people so called on the fence(dunno what that means) weren't gonna buy 2k's game unless it had BAP mode which it doesn't. So with no demo they finally came out with the truth, " wasn't gona buy in the first place. -Marketing wasn't the greatest, now even more people rip on the marketing. -People feel like 2k is ashamed to show there new game. We should not act on how we feel people. So Savoie can think whatever he wants, its a free country, but you attacking him for Blind Faith, negro please.....

Noone is attacking him at all Kai, more so calling him on getting on people for having legitimate gripes about the lack of marketing and a demo or how theres alot of aspects of this "sim" video that don't look all that sim.

He's entitled just as anyone else is to his opinion but like Keirik mentioned claiming this is going to be the best 2k hockey eva11!! With so little info and shady trailers IS the perfect example of blind faith.

[wheels2121]

The thing is, regardless of how good the game actually is, the lack of marketing is going to hurt sales, it just is. EA could put out a black and white game that skips every 5 minutes and people will buy it in droves because they promote it brilliantly.
And not producing a demo, rightly or wrongly, is going to make people think they don't want to show the game off. Like they're hiding something. Again, not saying that's 2k's reason, but that's what it will seem like to the average fan.

[kai123]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

Noone is attacking him at all Kai, more so calling him on getting on people for having legitimate gripes about the lack of marketing and a demo or how theres alot of aspects of this "sim" video that don't look all that sim. He's entitled just as anyone else is to his opinion but like Keirik mentioned claiming this is going to be the best 2k hockey eva11!! With so little info and shady trailers IS the perfect example of blind faith.

Well, ok, Blind Faith isn't abad thing though. He can be excited all he wants but if the game is horrible, he can only blame himself.

Quote: Originally Posted by Keirik

wtf, when did i attack him or even say he can't have blind faith? I was explaining to him that he honestly has blind faith based on how little we have and the aspects of this game 2k neglects in the first place like more vids, demo, info, etc. I do too. I already have the game paid in full. What are you talking about? negro what? huh?

Ok, sorry for going out of context with the "negro" stuff hope you can forgive me on that one. But yeah, Blind Faith ain't bad and again, he can only blame himself if the game sucks for having so much "faith".

I can't believe anybody has pre-ordered this. Your brave. I can't play Hockey games anymore because We want simulation but they give us NHL 94 witrh better graphics and hockeysticks mapped to the right analog stick.

I'm sorry Keirik/Realm, I'm just fed up with Hockey gaming, hopefully NHL 10 or 2k10 can change my mind....

[baa7]

Quote: Originally Posted by wheels2121

And not producing a demo, rightly or wrongly, is going to make people think they don't want to show the game off. Like they're hiding something. Again, not saying that's 2k's reason, but that's what it will seem like to the average fan.

I don't know about that. I would bet the vast majority of video games sold don't ever have a demo released. And I've never downloaded a demo. I simply rent before buying. Nevertheless it's an odd decision for sure, given the EA hype machine is in full gear this year. And the excuse 2K gave -- that it's a strategy decision -- is very lame and plain silly. Why go to all the trouble of inventing reasons, just tell it like it is -- they ran out of time and/or don't have the resouces.

People here seem to have lost perspective and are over-reacting IMO. A few dozen gamers on OS and their opionions wll never make or break 2K. 90% of their sales will be to kids whose parents will get them the game regardless of what 2K does to market it.

[CarryTheWeight]

Quote: Originally Posted by baa7

People here seem to have lost perspective and are over-reacting IMO. A few dozen gamers on OS and their opionions wll never make or break 2K. 90% of their sales will be to kids whose parents will get them the game regardless of what 2K does to market it.

Great post baa. At the end of the day, we're only a niche market compared to the majority. It's easy to get worried about sales and such, but like I said before, I don't think it's our business to worry about it until it happens. Gamers aren't usually as informed or as research-savvy as OS'ers are.

[wheels2121]

It's not even whether you play the demo, it's that people know that most sports games have one and this one didn't. That is something that will spread by word of mouth.
and you're right about the parents getting games for kids, which is why EA will dominate. At least put enough info out online where kids can tell mom they want that game.

[baa7]

Quote: Originally Posted by CarryTheWeight

At the end of the day, we're only a niche market compared to the majority. Gamers aren't usually as informed or as research-savvy as OS'ers are.

LOL, at the end of the day we're an like a family of kids arguing over who gets the last bowl of Sugar Pops. There will be lots of hockey goodness for everyone this year; nobody has to worry and/or get so worked up over this stuff. Rent 2K10 if you're at all interested; if not, then I guess you'll be playing EA's game this year. Whatever.

Your second sentence above is what I was talking about, absolutely. I'm guessing 2K is focusing a lot of their energy on the Wii because they've identified who their main target audience is, and we're definitely not it. At the same time it's nice to see they're putting substantial effort into producing a sim game -- that video posted yesterday looks terrific.