NBA 2K10 Kobe Bryant Signature Play Trailer

[Shinyhubcaps]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

Yeah, that's all I was pointing out. That and the Staples Center logo remain unchanged.

The Staples Center logo did change. It is bolder, and they added the bent-staple "L" (like on the store logo) in 2008, I believe.

This is for real-life and the game, I mean.

[youvalss]

Kobe really caught some tan this summer...

Anyway, nice trailer. I'm gonna buy it for PC - no questions asked... Even if it's all about Kobe this year...

[Shinyhubcaps]

Oh yeah, all side-topics aside, the trailer was pretty nice. It gets me excited to see more, as it should. Mission accomplished, well done.

Shoes look sick as well.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Stumbleweed

Sorry, I hate that argument. I know 2K's "king of the Hill" in terms of sales and reviews based on last year, but they're acting like they don't have anything to prove. To people like me who were extremely unimpressed with 2K9, they have just as far to go as Live does in many areas (halfcourt game, playcalling, player control, tendencies, etc.). It's not simply a matter of Live having more to do so they have to be the ones out there for 4 months showing every facet of their game including actual unedited gameplay sequences... both games should be doing that because community interaction up through the release (and after) is something that makes the games better, period. Live shows all this stuff and people can nitpick and then Marcus hops in and makes the fix (VC's headband and piddly crap like that)... Meanwhile 2K has released hardly anything (most of which was centered on the admittedly 2K9.5 Draft Combine) and has basically left us to assume that their game will improve in the main areas that it needs to but hasn't really shown any evidence of that. Basically, I hope that both companies get on the EA train in regards to releasing early information and showing a window into the development of the game. It's very interesting and rewarding for me as a buyer who is hesitant about being burned again (both games were underwhelming for 09) to see things like revamped player movement and momentum being shown in the developer's wireframe environment. It's legitimate and meaningful interaction, not simply marketing. Anyway, carry on.

You wont know whether youve been burned again without playing the game and videos and screenshots do nothing for that. Especially videos in August. A demo can help you with that. I appreciate all that Marcus does on the Live forums but the stuff he fixes through interaction at this point doesnt matter to 98% of potential buyers. Most cant even tell you that there was an issue with Vince's headband.

The things that people care about and that keep you playing cant be shown through trailers. Live 09 and 2k9 had great trailers and as you said both were dissapointed. Seeing great trailers this year wont mean either game is good or bad. So I agree with Jmood that showing videos now is pretty much pointless.

[Goffs]

Hmm where's the insight?

[RayAP19]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

You wont know whether youve been burned again without playing the game and videos and screenshots do nothing for that. Especially videos in August. A demo can help you with that. I appreciate all that Marcus does on the Live forums but the stuff he fixes through interaction at this point doesnt matter to 98% of potential buyers. Most cant even tell you that there was an issue with Vince's headband. The things that people care about and that keep you playing cant be shown through trailers. Live 09 and 2k9 had great trailers and as you said both were dissapointed. Seeing great trailers this year wont mean either game is good or bad. So I agree with Jmood that showing videos now is pretty much pointless.

What about people that won't have access to a demo for whatever reason?

[Stumbleweed]

It's not pointless though. You can see clear improvements in the blog videos and pictures that the Live team has posted (especially the ones where they showed Live 09 and then Live 10). That's all I (and plenty of other skeptical buyers) want to see is a concerted effort to improve specific areas of the game... of course I can't judge the game until I get it in my hands, but it sure helps make me more confident about giving them my $60 on release day. Right now Live has that for sure and 2K's gotta show me something... normally that scenario was reversed in the past regardless of 2K's generally late (later than Live anyway) marketing and their penchant for trailers/teasers.

Trailers and screenshots do nothing for that (squashing concerns about gameplay issues). Actually seeing and reading about the actual mechanics that went into revamped player movement for example is meaningful in a way that official teasers and screens aren't though... and that's what we've been getting from EA. It's very appreciated by me because it's making my decision much easier than it would be if we were looking just at apples-to-apples trailers from both companies, as has been the case in the past... the extra window EA has given has made me much more confident in their product.

Okay, no more sidetrack. I just hate the argument jmood made there because it's taken at face value and I really don't think it's true.

[Pared]

lol And the thread becomes a discussion on their marketing. LOL even with you guys knowing full well it's a teaser.

Every year. Same story. Same way it happens, too. Same tired argument with no real proof. You guys are just basketball fiends and you try and make it seem like it's something completely different. Y'all don't learn. That's bball love though.

LOL I'll catch you guys online on release day.