NHL Developer Insights: NHL 2K10 Improved AI

[Eddie1967]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

I still love you though. It is all good. I have some great faith in this game. I don't know why. I guess because I love it already. So if it is all gameplay I will be very happy for you guys too. I can tell that they have enough "Little Things" for me and Eddie.

They sure do. Hurray for the little things, lol.

[Eddie1967]

Quote: Originally Posted by baa7

Your 2K enthusiasm used to bug me, it's true. But looking at the state of the world these days, some guy who's happy with the video game he's playing is about last thing I need to be getting upset about.

Yeah I remember those days. But of course you would disarm me with jokes and that was the end of the argument. People usually get fed up with my enthusiasm usually around release time for 2k games, lol.

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

Agree, but it is tough with some. When you have some guys come in here and talk "constructive criticism" And then go into the EA's thread all talk nothing, but how that game is going to owned! It is funny at least to me. If Realm ends up liking this game better than NHL10 then I believe hell just froze over! But I agree.

I feel I'm far more constructive, then say going into the EA forum and posting nothing but one liners along the lines of "ROTFLMAO" and the like. Like I've said many times, if 2k10 is great, I'll be the first person to say it. As much as your buddy repetes over and over that everyone has some sort of agenda if the're not gushing at every bit of info from 2k, doesn't make it true. Thats not to say NHL10 will be perfect either, its sure to have its own issues as well. Playing the victim when called on it doesn't make it justified either, nor does adding 30 smileys a post.

As someone who has bought just about every 2k sports title (not just NHL) since the original Xbox I have just as much right to let the developers know the features I don't particularly like or think could be done better without having the troll card thrown in my face each and every time. Some people obviously don't know what discussion forums are here for.

[slickdtc]

I don't think RealmK is a troll at all. I've seen him at 2khockey.net and around here so I know he loves his hockey and his NHL video games. And though he seems to take a negative approach (not completely unwarranted, either) to many things, the dude can be flat out right and he won't sugarcoat anything. I know the guy just wants the series (check that: NHL games) to be the best they can be. Meanwhile, Eddie is a guy who'll defend NHL 2k to the death. The dude loves the game and he might not be as hardcore as other users, he's allowed to be in love with the series if he wants. As long as people post constructive criticisms or intelligent positives, then we shouldn't have a problem.

We should never "not like" a user or throw out insults just because we disagree with them. I know me and Baa7 aren't on the same page regarding puck size in NHL 2k10, but I also know that I agree with a ton of what Baa7 posts. We had a disagreement, I never took it personal, and now we're back to talking about NHL 2k. As it should be. That's why I hate the ignore feature. If I had taken that disagreement personal and put him on ignore, I would've missed out on all his other great opinions.

I think we have a pretty solid little base here. I like it that it's just a couple of guys with a few randoms thrown in from time to time. This is quite rare for as big as OS is. Let's just keep it intelligent and hope for the best for this series and for NHL video games in general in the future.

[Flyermania]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

Agree, but it is tough with some. When you have some guys come in here and talk "constructive criticism" And then go into the EA's thread all talk nothing, but how that game is going to owned! It is funny at least to me. If Realm ends up liking this game better than NHL10 then I believe hell just froze over! But I agree.

Scott, I don't know how long you've played hockey games or what forums you frequent, but EA was torn a new one all of the time up until NHL 07. It was ugly and ten times worse than any negative criticism that 2k receives. And you know what? It was well deserved. IMO EA has made some fantastic strides with their game since they went next-gen, so their critics have been silenced to some degree.

Is their game perfect? Far from it. Look at the uproar NHL 09 received before the two patches that dropped for it. I can tell you from playing NHL 10 that it is improved in many areas...but still far from a perfect hockey game.

I've seen Realm post over at 2khockey for years...the guy has no loyalty to any brand --- he is loyal to the better game. He's played both and has some great feedback, both good and bad.

I know you and Eddie have issues with the negative feedback at times, but I've received several emails from Ben Bishop over the years over at 2khockey.net thanking me for my feedback, comments, and comparisons to other hockey games. As long as it's presented in a mature fashion, they really do appreciate it as it helps them improve their game.

[tabulaRasa]

Quote: Originally Posted by baa7

Your 2K enthusiasm used to bug me, it's true. But looking at the state of the world these days, some guy who's happy with the video game he's playing is about last thing I need to be getting upset about.

Haha, so true

Anyhow, will buy both games this year. Skipped 2k9 after the demo, but I think it will be a good year for hockey this year

[Scottdau]

I have no problem with negative remarks at all. You are entitled to your opinions just like I am mine. I don't think anyone on here is trolling. Not even Realm. It has been fun reading all his post about how he still thinks this game will be bad. Like I said if this game is great and he likes it more than EA's I will be speechless. I must say I do like all you guys on here even you dafly.

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Scottdau

I have no problem with negative remarks at all. You are entitled to your opinions just like I am mine. I don't think anyone on here is trolling. Not even Realm. It has been fun reading all his post about how he still thinks this game will be bad. Like I said if this game is great and he likes it more than EA's I will be speechless. I must say I do like all you guys on here even you dafly.

I don't think the game will be bad persay. I just question the amount of turn around from 2k9-2k10 and just how polished things will be given sports titles are generally about a 10 month cycle.