Madden NFL 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

[rts5002]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

It's been up since this afternoon.

haha, thank you. i just got home from work, i've been out of the loop all afternoon and evening. thanks again.

[TheSolutionKMH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

What skill level is this? That part was skipped over. You can still strafe with LT as a WR on Pro mode, meaning that you can still get to a spot and jump catch. You can't do that on All-Pro or All-Madden.

well crisis adverted then cause i dont play on pro or rookie in madden. demo has some huge plus but of course the great madden franchise wouldnt be right without huge minuses. but i can say that at least the franchise is going in the right direction, so....dont stop

[jzal8]

Here is to sqib kicks!

Here is to watching Tuck drink his gatorade while the offense is on the field!

Here is to late ProTak! (Seriously, its pretty awesome when you take the time to see what just happened on the replay)

Here is to all the work that went into these graphics! This is the best looking sports game i've seen on the 360.

Here is to pausing the snow game, and watching the pause menu "camera" get hit by the snow!

And here is to beers at a football game under $3!!!!!

[Football4Natic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Football-Fanatic

Will someone post a damn code, lol thankyou. If you dont want to post it, plz send me a message with it.

Yea sure let me run and get you one with that attitude.....

Buy your own code son

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by rts5002

can anyone verify that they've downloaded this on PSN? I saw on page 99 that someone said they played their first game on PS3, but it seemed awfully quick to download at 9 and get a full game in...I'm nervous to try my code for fear that it will void it. i went through a lot of trouble to switch my 360 code with a PS3 code (damn red ring of death) so I want to be sure it's up and working before trying to download it...

the demo went live around 3pm EST today. You'll be fine to download the demo.

[Only1LT]

There is nothing really wrong with the WR catching the ball short like that. In real life a WR can, and should go to meet the ball and catch it at it's highest point to keep the defender from getting to the ball. They did not jump super high to get it either.

The problem isn't the WR jumping up, it is the AI of the defender, the lack of defenders being able to track the ball, and the fact that the ball doesn't have varying degrees of arc.

The AI should be able to make a play on the ball the same way that the WR does. The WR knows where he is going first so he should arrive at his spot sooner than the defender, but the defender should have more options on defending against that catch after getting there even if he is a little late. He should be able to go up with the WR and fight for the catch and he should also be able to have animations to try and strip the ball as the WR is coming down, before he can secure the catch. The most important thing though is that the DB should be reacting to the PASS, even if it is later than the WR. In those vidz, the didn't really even really react to anything until after the fact, but even when they did react, it was to where the ball would be caught in STRIDE. In real life, DBs don't play the role of the WR, they play the WR. In other words, they don't go to where the ball would end up if they were the WR and caught a perfect pass, the try and stay between the WR and the ball under any circumstances. They aren't go to go for an INT at the expense of giving the receiver a shot at catching the ball. In Madden, DBs clearly go to the circle on the field instead of trying to stay between the WR and the ball. That is the biggest flaw with Madden's defensive AI.

Madden's other problem is that passes are either really high on lobs or only about 7ft off the ground on bullets. QBs are able to put varying degrees of arc on a pass and still have them go at high velocity in the real world.

There isn't anything wrong with a WR being able to cut off his route and come back to the ball and jump up and get it. Many QBs will intentionally throw passes short on deep routes to their outside shoulder and give them a chance at the catch when they are being covered over the top. Ian and crew needs to fix how the AI defends all passes and stop sending them towards the circle to catch it like they are the receiver unless if the WR slipped down or something. Then they need to give the DBs more skills to be able to defend the pass via strip in case they get their too late. WRs should also need to have very high catch ratings in order to pull down a catch like that under duress. Finally, Ian, change the way that the ball travels and allow for more arc with velocity so that WRs can't break patterns off 10yds from the target circle and still be able to pull the pass down.

Those are the real issues. Sorry for the long post.

[krc1130]

Wow, this demo is fun, even though its like 4 minutes

Can't wait for this game to come out!!!

And it great to play as the G-Men!!!

[bowlerguy92]

The demo was a blast I won 28-7 as the Steelers, things looked pretty good, played incredible well and I actually enjoyed the game I played! Lots of cool things happening on and off the field, the presentation is really nice as well. I'm looking very forward! Great work so far...this game dare I say it feels a LOT like NFL 2K5 which I think will be recieved pretty incredibly.