Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

[UtahUtes32]

I can't disagree with Utah being a 5. Perfect rating.

[UtahUtes32]

Quote: Originally Posted by shmoeco

There is no way MSU should be a 3, they should be a 4 for sure. i think boise state and utah are both to high. they wouldnt have such good records if they played in a real conference.

that's because you are high. you play in the mac. get real.

[blakeharrell]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jase24

I'm happy with the 6 star rating for Alabama, things are turning around now and hopefully it won't be too long before adding #13 to the trophy room. As far as the 12 National Championships, the NCAA officially recognizes Alabama with having 12, we only claim 12, and there are some that were given to us that we don't claim.

Let's just see...of those 12, according to Wiki:
1925 - OK
1926-OK
1930 - OK
1934 - OK
1941 - Went 8-2, Number 20 in the AP, lost to Miss St & Vandy, selected national champs by Football Thesaurus. (shouldnt claim this one)
1961 - OK
1964- This one belongs to Arkansas - Alabama lost their bown game to Texas, but was awarded the NC BEFORE the bowl game. (shouldnt claim this one, Arkansas does)
1965 - OK
1973 - Again, lost to Notre Dame in the last game of season, selected NC's by Coaches Poll, shouldnt claim this one. Because of controversy, the polls started waiting until after the bowls.
1978 - OK
1979 - OK
1992 - OK

So, at least 3 shouldnt count.
The number of those that do count is impressive, however.

[UtahUtes32]

Quote: Originally Posted by shmoeco

any incite as to why MSU is still only a 3 star?

How about the fact that your team has never done anything nationally relevant? I do like LeFevour though

[bamaCT12]

im not just saying this because im a bama fan, but auburn is not of the same prestige as FSU in my opinion, they should be a 4 star

[ChicagoSparty]

Quote: Originally Posted by pimpycraig

How about the fact that your team has never done anything nationally relevant? I do like LeFevour though

That's great. He plays for CMU.

As for MSU, we have a couple NCs, though nothing since the 60s.

[theharbinater]

Quote: Originally Posted by blakeharrell

Let's just see...of those 12, according to Wiki: 1925 - OK 1926-OK 1930 - OK 1934 - OK 1941 - Went 8-2, Number 20 in the AP, lost to Miss St & Vandy, selected national champs by Football Thesaurus. (shouldnt claim this one) 1961 - OK 1964- This one belongs to Arkansas - Alabama lost their bown game to Texas, but was awarded the NC BEFORE the bowl game. (shouldnt claim this one, Arkansas does) 1965 - OK 1973 - Again, lost to Notre Dame in the last game of season, selected NC's by Coaches Poll, shouldnt claim this one. Because of controversy, the polls started waiting until after the bowls. 1978 - OK 1979 - OK 1992 - OK So, at least 3 shouldnt count. The number of those that do count is impressive, however.

first, i agree 41 is bogus. have no idea why we claim that.

second, pre-bowl selected mnc were how they were done then. others claim titles that they lost bowls or didnt even play in a bowl. it's just hpw it was.

finally, you left out undefeated bama teams who were selected mnc by some polls from 1945 and 1966.

45 there were other undefeated, untied teams, so i dont have much beef with this one, but it should be known.

66 we were the only udefeated, untied team in the nation, were pre-season #1, were back-to-back mnc, and were passed by nd and msu mid season just before their infamous tie game in which nd's coach deliberately ran out the clock instead of going for the win. they also refused to go bowling. bama beat #6 (or 8, cant remember) neb 34-7 in sugar. this is the only time that a pre-season #1 has gone undefeated, untied and NOT won the mnc.

also, if you want to get really involved, 77 was another crazy year. 5 teams finished 11-1. bama entered the bowls at #3, and both #1 and 2 lost, while bama won 35-6 over #8 osu. nd, who entered #5, beat the #1 team, pretty badly as well, and jumped bama to finish #1, with bama #2. arky finished 3rd. all 3 split title votes, but nd received the majority. all 3 have a legit argument, though nd has the hardware.

[jeremym480]

Quote: Originally Posted by theharbinater

first, i agree 41 is bogus. have no idea why we claim that. second, pre-bowl selected mnc were how they were done then. others claim titles that they lost bowls or didnt even play in a bowl. it's just hpw it was. finally, you left out undefeated bama teams who were selected mnc by some polls from 1945 and 1966. 45 there were other undefeated, untied teams, so i dont have much beef with this one, but it should be known. 66 we were the only udefeated, untied team in the nation, were pre-season #1, were back-to-back mnc, and were passed by nd and msu mid season just before their infamous tie game in which nd's coach deliberately ran out the clock instead of going for the win. they also refused to go bowling. bama beat #6 (or 8, cant remember) neb 34-7 in sugar. this is the only time that a pre-season #1 has gone undefeated, untied and NOT won the mnc. also, if you want to get really involved, 77 was another crazy year. 5 teams finished 11-1. bama entered the bowls at #3, and both #1 and 2 lost, while bama won 35-6 over #8 osu. nd, who entered #5, beat the #1 team, pretty badly as well, and jumped bama to finish #1, with bama #2. arky finished 3rd. all 3 split title votes, but nd received the majority. all 3 have a legit argument, though nd has the hardware.

Finally, someone who know's what they're talking about!! Thanks harbinator.