NHL 2K10: First Look (Gamespot)

[JAYMO76]

Quote: Originally Posted by Eddie1967

An outstanding post, which I agree with wholeheartedly. 2K makes the better sports games for my money. I can only imagine what 2k football would be like considering that madden looks like it is still behind 2k5 and APF in many areas. VC is indeed the best and they have proven that with their baseball and hockey games this year. Both made a huge leap from the previous KUSH products. I can't imagine what it would be like if EA had indeed bought out 2k. My video sports gaming days would have been over. I am very thankful and have the utmost confidence that all of the titles will continue to get better. And the less resources is sooooooooo true, and they seem to know how to make a realistic sports game with or without fan input.

Hey I agree, dollar for dollar I prefer 2k sports games. BUT... don't be too quick to bash KUSH. With the exception of the dynasty glitches, NHL 2K8 was the best hockey dynasty I have ever played. The depth was amazing. Will VC do the same things with franchise? I don't know. All we hear about is pick-up-and-play... and that's not what I'm looking for. As a gamer I want to get lost in a deep option heavy franchise/dynasty mode. EA won't give this too me... we all know that!

[Eddie1967]

Quote: Originally Posted by JAYMO76

Hey I agree, dollar for dollar I prefer 2k sports games. BUT... don't be too quick to bash KUSH. With the exception of the dynasty glitches, NHL 2K8 was the best hockey dynasty I have ever played. The depth was amazing. Will VC do the same things with franchise? I don't know. All we hear about is pick-up-and-play... and that's not what I'm looking for. As a gamer I want to get lost in a deep option heavy franchise/dynasty mode. EA won't give this too me... we all know that!

Yeah I don't to totally dismiss KUSH since I was playing and liking both 2k hockey and baseball long before VC took over. Hopefully they add the things that were in their previous hockey games to 2k10. I didn't get into the dynasty mode at all in 2k10 because of the annoying free agent bug. They can't allow that to happen this year. I really believe 2k10 will improve because of the developers making this a 2 year project. Last year was a bit hollow as far as options.

[Flyermania]

Quote: Originally Posted by Eddie1967

They can't allow that to happen this year. I really believe 2k10 will improve because of the developers making this a 2 year project. Last year was a bit hollow as far as options.

How do you figure it is a two year project? They worked on and released 2k9, and 2k10 will only be 2k9 with whatever changes they have made. It's only one development cycle (as usual).

[baa7]

Quote: Originally Posted by Grydnt Vektr211

2k have been making great sports gms for the longest and honestly we need to give them a break. Have anyone played any EA SPORTS TITLES LATELY!!!! No offense but EA has been putting out alot of crap over the yrs and while 2k have minimal resources, a smaller studio to work with and a smaller fan base, THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO PUSH THE BAR WITH THEIR GMS!!!!!

If you surveyed OS gamers, the vast majority of would no doubt say EA has been putting out better games than 2K for a good 2-3 years now. The "smaller studio" excuse does not justify 2K continually and KNOWINGLY releasing buggy, half-finished games these past few years. If they're handicapped by a lack of resources, then they need to adjust their development objectives and marketing plans. But there's simply no excuse for releasing titles they know are broken -- that's inexcusable.

[JAYMO76]

Quote: Originally Posted by baa7

If you surveyed OS gamers, the vast majority of would no doubt say EA has been putting out better games than 2K for a good 2-3 years now. The "smaller studio" excuse does not justify 2K continually and KNOWINGLY releasing buggy, half-finished games these past few years. If they're handicapped by a lack of resources, then they need to adjust their development objectives and marketing plans. But there's simply no excuse for releases titles they know are broken -- that's inexcusable.

True but that's the state of modern games. I love Madden and NCAA Football but all next gen titles have serious issues. IN THE AGE OF THE PATCH MEDIOCRITY IS ACCEPTABLE! EA has dropped the ball just as much as 2K.

[Eddie1967]

Quote: Originally Posted by Flyermania

How do you figure it is a two year project? They worked on and released 2k9, and 2k10 will only be 2k9 with whatever changes they have made. It's only one development cycle (as usual).

Below is from an article I believe IGN, not sure what else I can tell you.

"but this is really a continuation off of that. If 2K9 was fun, but not quite there, it's because it was only half of the dev cycle in 2K's mind. As such, 2K10 is meant to be the fruits of two years of labor; not just a one-year quick fix update".

[savoie2006]

Yeah, I think of 2K9 sort of as 2K's version of NHL 07, which was also a half realized idea; later much closer to being fully realized with NHL 08. We can only hope that 2K10 is as much of an improvement.

[texbuk84]

Quote: Originally Posted by JAYMO76

Hey I agree, dollar for dollar I prefer 2k sports games. BUT... don't be too quick to bash KUSH. With the exception of the dynasty glitches, NHL 2K8 was the best hockey dynasty I have ever played. The depth was amazing. Will VC do the same things with franchise? I don't know. All we hear about is pick-up-and-play... and that's not what I'm looking for. As a gamer I want to get lost in a deep option heavy franchise/dynasty mode. EA won't give this too me... we all know that!

You are absolutely right I will NEVER dismiss what Kush has done as a company. they made to me also the best hockey game(dynasty wise) with 2k8 an mlb 2k7 is still one of the best baseball games I've ever played. On the contrary, VC is the king of Sports Gaming i.e. NFL 2k5, Top Spin etc.... this is what I mean about giving them some time and appreciate what they are doing with the series. Most people just complain and complain and I think that if I was a developer, this would be annoying and it could make you loose interest because no matter what you do SOMEONE IS ALWAYS COMPLAINING!!!! LOL