Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

[NFLHITMAN]

Quote: Originally Posted by wohlm

lol so true. If only the fans knew what these developers went through. As a community you have to realize, they will not get everything right. Would you rather have really great quality on certain parts of the game or a bunch of parts that were mediocre? I'll take quality over quantity anyday.

Would it be ok to give only $6 for Madden 10 instead of $60?

If they are going to charge for a complete game than $60 is fine but if they are going to give us a game without a fixed running animations maybe they should take the price down.

You don't see EA saying it is ok to give less than $60 dollars do you???

They want the whole $60 and I would love a complete game that has been promised with the green videos of the running animations that has yet to be seen in Madden 10.

Here is how I think the deal should play out....

EA: Madden 10 for $60
Consumer: I will buy it if its everything you promised since day one of a new dev crew.
EA: Well some things didn't make it in the game like the running animations but you might see them in Madden 11.
Consumer: I thought you guys promised the running animations would be fixed and even posted the green videos showing the fixes?
EA: Yes but as I said before we couldn't get those in to Madden 10.
Consumer: And you are still wanting $60?
EA: Yes because we said they would be in Madden 11 remember?
Consumer: I remember the green videos posted saying it would be in Madden 10.
EA: It will look better than all the videos we posted so far because we only played every video on slow speed and it was also a alpha build.
Consumer: So your saying I give you my $60 and your telling me that the everything is set on normal speed and everything will work just the way you promised?
EA: Yes, so can we get the $60?
Consumer: Sure, Here you go!
EA: Thanks for the $60 kid and hopefully through a couple patches or Madden 11 we will live up to the promise we made for Madden 10!

Just want to point out I am talking about Madden the game and the game maker behind it ( EA ), Not any individual person.

[Alacr1ty]

wow, just wow. guys seriously. this game was terrible in 09, everyone knows this. Tiburon has a team working on 1 the next gen madden 10 right? but they also have a team that has to work on 10 for ps2, psp, and ds. Meaning they get less than a year to put new features into the game. Everyone on this board wants madden to be the best it can be, since its the only nfl game we can get. The last team totally messed madden up, for 3 straight years. This year, Phil, Iand and crew have come in and fixed as many problems as possible. There are obviously still going to be problems. Since there were problems from 3 years of doing nothing. I for one am more then happy and impressed with all the work they've put into this game, and there dedication to the community.

[soxnut1018]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian Cumming's Twitter

So the OS folks are making huge deal about the running animations...is that the highest priority issue for 10? If so, is that a good thing?

Gotta agree with Ian on this one.

[NFLHITMAN]

Quote: Originally Posted by Alacr1ty

wow, just wow. guys seriously. this game was terrible in 09, everyone knows this. Tiburon has a team working on 1 the next gen madden 10 right? but they also have a team that has to work on 10 for ps2, psp, and ds. Meaning they get less than a year to put new features into the game. Everyone on this board wants madden to be the best it can be, since its the only nfl game we can get. The last team totally messed madden up, for 3 straight years. This year, Phil, Iand and crew have come in and fixed as many problems as possible. There are obviously still going to be problems. Since there were problems from 3 years of doing nothing. I for one am more then happy and impressed with all the work they've put into this game, and there dedication to the community.

Ummm I understand where you are coming from but EA themselfs said that those running animations in the green videos would be in Madden 10 not us. We hoped for a better animation but we didn't know if they would do it. They posted those videos to show how they are changing the game and than we see none of it when it comes to the animations.

If EA would not have posted the those videos showing the fixes in Madden 10 than maybe nobody would be getting upset like I was when we saw the actual trailers of Madden 10.

Like I said I have Madden already paid for but it still pisses me off that what we saw in those fix it videos is not what we see in M10. Do I think that Madden 10 has improved? YES! by a long shot but....The core of the game is running animations since it is seen ALL GAME LONG on EVERY PLAY instead of a halftime show that is seen only at halftime.

Don't get me wrong here because I want the halftime show, refs, hand warmers, chain gangs, online franchise but not if we have to sacrifice the core of the game which is the running animations.

If your car can't start do you buy accessories for it like Rims or do you make sure it works and runs perfectly 1st? What use is a car all nice and pretty if the engine it self doesn't produce results?

[DBoweshow8282]

I just think better running animations shouldnt have been promised if they werent 100% sure they would make it in.

[NFLHITMAN]

Quote: Originally Posted by soxnut1018

Gotta agree with Ian on this one.

Running Animations should have been #1 on priorities for Madden 06-07-08-09 & 10.

Like I said in the 1st running animations thread a looooong time ago...This should have been #1, #2, and #3 before Hand Warmers, Chain Gangs, Refs and Fluff.

[Colladie]

Quote: Originally Posted by NFLHITMAN

Running Animations should have been #1 on priorities for Madden 06-07-08-09 & 10. Like I said in the 1st running animations thread a looooong time ago...This should have been #1, #2, and #3 before Hand Warmers, Chain Gangs, Refs and Fluff.

There is more than 3 people working on Madden 10

[beau21]

I try to not be to opinionated but MAN there are some people that will just never be satisfied around here.

I mean goodness gracious.. look how bad Madden has been since coming to the 'next-gen' platforms and how people have been wishing to no end for some communication and a new direction from the development team..

Now for Madden 10 we finally are seeing the fruits of what we've been asking for. We have a new development team, a new direction and for the first time in a long time, some optimism that seems likely to be justified.

We have a handful of developers on these boards regularly giving us updates and asking for opinions from us and now that we're starting to get what we've been asking for for so long, it's not enough.

I've messed with some animation and programming software before in some of my engineering classes and like people have said countless times before, NOTHING is as easy to program as you would think.

The jump we've seen so far from Madden 09 to Madden 10 is nothing short of phenomenal. In no way is Madden 10 going to be flawless. I'm not here to say the developers have done no wrong and that this is the year that Madden for certain gets it right. I'm not in position to make a statement like that. All I'm saying is that the development team is obviously trying and I can't believe that we don't have more people that respect that as opposed to demanding more and more.

I, as much as anyone would love to see improved running animations but you know what? If they want to wait until 11 to do it and do it right that's fine with me with all the things they've done and added this year.

It's gotta be give and take. From both sides. There's going to be things we (the consumers) want it that will make it in. There's going to be things that we want that won't make it in. Same with things the developers want it. And sometimes issues arise and things that we want in (or are supposed to be in) have to be sacrificed for one reason or another. It happens.

Who knows? I mean.. maybe they're hoping to go with the road that the throwing animations got this year and go with more signature running styles for next year.

I know this has been a long post and I'm sure I've rambled on but I'm really just tired of seeing all the negatives when we should really be thankful the developers take the time to come on here and share their vision and direction with us and allow us (the consumers) to share our feedback and then (a lot of times) see it directly implemented and/or changed in the game.

Oh.. and if you took the time to read all that.. I appreciate you respecting my opinion just as I try and do for everyone on here. After all.. this is a message board and is a place to share your opinon(s). I just wish more people would do it in respectable manners.