NBA Live 09 & NBA Live 10 Screenshot Comparison: LeBron James

[HOLLIDAY1183]

@ Dantecamp21... Nope, there must be two of us, because I bought Live 06 off ebay right after getting my 360 and I would just play it with friends around to see their jaws drop. Sure, there were issues-the camera couldn't keep up, few game modes, players sliding-but they had such a strong foundation. I'm not even gon speak on 07 at length, but I just remember buying it, rushing back to my dorm so excited to play it, popped it in and played a quick game, and just getting the feeling that maybe they didn't finish it, maybe my copy was "corrupted" or something, maybe it was a joke, maybe the wrong disc was in the box. Ugh, just horrible.
I've been a 2K guy since then, but I'm definitely smart as I can be about which one to get every year, as I assume most of you are. Kinda went like this: Live 95-2000, 2K 2000-2004 (bought Live 03 because of all the Freestyle hype, hardly played it), Live 2005 (still in my opinion the best Live this decade, skipped 2K5), bought 360 and got Live 06 (2nd best Live IMO despite its issues, it seemed to have the basics down that even the current Lives still struggle with), Bought Live 07, returned same day and got 2K7 (which blew me away with how much signature stuff they added from shots to crossovers, WAY beyond Live at that point, which was so surprising--I felt like Live 07 was such a lock to be the best bball game ever that I totally ignored any 2K7 hype that year).
In 08 the EA hype got me again (this time it was Quickstrike and the promise of being able to break out of animations, and the XBL video where EA invited gamers to test their game out and they seemed genuinely impressed, I know it got some of ya'll too lol) so I got both and after a month or so stopped playing Live. Got only 2K9 this year. The DNA feature almost got me, but I played the demo and borrowed a friend's game and every time it's just the gameplay and the seeming lack of animations to fit all game situations, and animations that just looked plain awkward.
Thing is, every year I keep an eye on Live, just hoping it gets its act together, gets the ball physics down, the rim to sound like a rim when the ball hits it, for the net to swish realistically (seems so basic, something 2K has absolutely nailed for years), and especially this year, 2K9 left a SIM void that Live can scoop up if this is the year they get it right. Should be an interesting year, as 2K has to know Live is coming back, and they themselves have to prove that sim is still their mindset this year. So here I am again in summer 09, checking prob more Live news than 2K, still hoping with that glimmer of hope I saw in Live 06. I get the feeling from reading these forums this is where a lot of you are. One thing is for sure, though: if Live ever gets it right, they're getting my $60. I started with Live 95 on the SNES, I gotta go back, but till then, I'll buy every 2K with little to no hype, while devouring every Live article hoping, hoping....

LOL my bad for the essay, but I hardly EVER post, I just read all ya'll posts, spitting up my Corona at how funny some of you are

[FearlessKaz]

Holy wall of text! Ever heard of paragraphs?

[chrome381]

Quote: Originally Posted by HOLLIDAY1183

@ Dantecamp21... Nope, there must be two of us, because I bought Live 06 off ebay right after getting my 360 and I would just play it with friends around to see their jaws drop. Sure, there were issues-the camera couldn't keep up, few game modes, players sliding-but they had such a strong foundation. I'm not even gon speak on 07 at length, but I just remember buying it, rushing back to my dorm so excited to play it, popped it in and played a quick game, and just getting the feeling that maybe they didn't finish it, maybe my copy was "corrupted" or something, maybe it was a joke, maybe the wrong disc was in the box. Ugh, just horrible. I've been a 2K guy since then, but I'm definitely smart as I can be about which one to get every year, as I assume most of you are. Kinda went like this: Live 95-2000, 2K 2000-2004 (bought Live 03 because of all the Freestyle hype, hardly played it), Live 2005 (still in my opinion the best Live this decade, skipped 2K5), bought 360 and got Live 06 (2nd best Live IMO despite its issues, it seemed to have the basics down that even the current Lives still struggle with), Bought Live 07, returned same day and got 2K7 (which blew me away with how much signature stuff they added from shots to crossovers, WAY beyond Live at that point, which was so surprising--I felt like Live 07 was such a lock to be the best bball game ever that I totally ignored any 2K7 hype that year). In 08 the EA hype got me again (this time it was Quickstrike and the promise of being able to break out of animations, and the XBL video where EA invited gamers to test their game out and they seemed genuinely impressed, I know it got some of ya'll too lol) so I got both and after a month or so stopped playing Live. Got only 2K9 this year. The DNA feature almost got me, but I played the demo and borrowed a friend's game and every time it's just the gameplay and the seeming lack of animations to fit all game situations, and animations that just looked plain awkward. Thing is, every year I keep an eye on Live, just hoping it gets its act together, gets the ball physics down, the rim to sound like a rim when the ball hits it, for the net to swish realistically (seems so basic, something 2K has absolutely nailed for years), and especially this year, 2K9 left a SIM void that Live can scoop up if this is the year they get it right. Should be an interesting year, as 2K has to know Live is coming back, and they themselves have to prove that sim is still their mindset this year. So here I am again in summer 09, checking prob more Live news than 2K, still hoping with that glimmer of hope I saw in Live 06. I get the feeling from reading these forums this is where a lot of you are. One thing is for sure, though: if Live ever gets it right, they're getting my $60. I started with Live 95 on the SNES, I gotta go back, but till then, I'll buy every 2K with little to no hype, while devouring every Live article hoping, hoping.... LOL my bad for the essay, but I hardly EVER post, I just read all ya'll posts, spitting up my Corona at how funny some of you are

Who ever reads this and is able to summarize it gets one bill good luck!

[stephensonmc]

Quote: Originally Posted by HOLLIDAY1183

@ Dantecamp21... Nope, there must be two of us, because I bought Live 06 off ebay right after getting my 360 and I would just play it with friends around to see their jaws drop. Sure, there were issues-the camera couldn't keep up, few game modes, players sliding-but they had such a strong foundation. I'm not even gon speak on 07 at length, but I just remember buying it, rushing back to my dorm so excited to play it, popped it in and played a quick game, and just getting the feeling that maybe they didn't finish it, maybe my copy was "corrupted" or something, maybe it was a joke, maybe the wrong disc was in the box. Ugh, just horrible. I've been a 2K guy since then, but I'm definitely smart as I can be about which one to get every year, as I assume most of you are. Kinda went like this: Live 95-2000, 2K 2000-2004 (bought Live 03 because of all the Freestyle hype, hardly played it), Live 2005 (still in my opinion the best Live this decade, skipped 2K5), bought 360 and got Live 06 (2nd best Live IMO despite its issues, it seemed to have the basics down that even the current Lives still struggle with), Bought Live 07, returned same day and got 2K7 (which blew me away with how much signature stuff they added from shots to crossovers, WAY beyond Live at that point, which was so surprising--I felt like Live 07 was such a lock to be the best bball game ever that I totally ignored any 2K7 hype that year). In 08 the EA hype got me again (this time it was Quickstrike and the promise of being able to break out of animations, and the XBL video where EA invited gamers to test their game out and they seemed genuinely impressed, I know it got some of ya'll too lol) so I got both and after a month or so stopped playing Live. Got only 2K9 this year. The DNA feature almost got me, but I played the demo and borrowed a friend's game and every time it's just the gameplay and the seeming lack of animations to fit all game situations, and animations that just looked plain awkward. Thing is, every year I keep an eye on Live, just hoping it gets its act together, gets the ball physics down, the rim to sound like a rim when the ball hits it, for the net to swish realistically (seems so basic, something 2K has absolutely nailed for years), and especially this year, 2K9 left a SIM void that Live can scoop up if this is the year they get it right. Should be an interesting year, as 2K has to know Live is coming back, and they themselves have to prove that sim is still their mindset this year. So here I am again in summer 09, checking prob more Live news than 2K, still hoping with that glimmer of hope I saw in Live 06. I get the feeling from reading these forums this is where a lot of you are. One thing is for sure, though: if Live ever gets it right, they're getting my $60. I started with Live 95 on the SNES, I gotta go back, but till then, I'll buy every 2K with little to no hype, while devouring every Live article hoping, hoping.... LOL my bad for the essay, but I hardly EVER post, I just read all ya'll posts, spitting up my Corona at how funny some of you are

Thanks for the post man! It's good to see that you remember your roots We hope many others will this year as well. We know it's an uphill climb for us, and that we can't just reverse overnight, but I ask that if what you see / play (demo) makes you excited for the game, remember your roots and come on home! Apologies for being a one bedroom apt. for a bit...

[HOLLIDAY1183]

lol sorry guys for the massive post, but I just wanted to give the devs a rundown of what I imagine has been the experience for many as they wait for Live to reach its past glory! And I'm excited because this year I just have this feeling, like their really listening and applying all of your feedback.

@ stephensonmc... hey without a doubt, if Live is great this year my $60 is yours lol. I'm happy with 2K9 and am actually playing it now, lol, but 2K pissed me off this year with some of the animations (unstoppable offensive moves that suck the defender in every time UGH), and they kinda got away from what made them "the sim game" in the first place.

But I'm definitely feeling good about Live this year. Not any features, game modes, sneakers, etc, I mean all of that is great, but smooth, sim gameplay is the key

[Dantecamp21]

Nice post HOLLIDAY1183's . I rather read your long, well written post rather than some slang filled post full of dumb requests.

About Live 07, man...I know how that felt...

I also thought Live 07 was going to be the greatest SPORTS game ever after the totally impressive showing from Live 06. I don't even have a 360 anymore because they all crashed on my face, but I still keep my copy of NBA Live 06 (hoping that the next 360 will feature backwards compatibility).

I don't know what happened. Even the graphics took a downgrade in 07. Maybe stephensonmc being a developer can explain what causes a development cycle to be such a retrocess.

[stephensonmc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dantecamp21

Nice post HOLLIDAY1183's . I rather read your long, well written post rather than some slang filled post full of dumb requests. About Live 07, man...I know how that felt... I also thought Live 07 was going to be the greatest SPORTS game ever after the totally impressive showing from Live 06. I don't even have a 360 anymore because they all crashed on my face, but I still keep my copy of NBA Live 06 (hoping that the next 360 will feature backwards compatibility). I don't know what happened. Even the graphics took a downgrade in 07. Maybe stephensonmc being a developer can explain what causes a development cycle to be such a retrocess.

Focus and priorities. We were using new tech and tried to run before we could walk. Remember all of that LIVE 07 footplanting stuff?

Like I said, run before we could walk.

[WTF]

Stephenson, brother, glad to have you on board. I haven't been around a lot lately since you've been on the boards, but I have been following everything that you're doing with the community, and just want to say that I appreciate it. This is how you garner long time customers and develop a fanbase. Interaction. Mike has always been very interactive with the community, and I'm glad the rest of the team is taking an interest in the same path.

Everything is sounding great this year, and I'm glad I'll be around to talk about it. Looking forward to Friday already. I haven't had this kind of anticipation since the days of Tipoff Tuesdays when Mike first went over to the 2k series from Inside Drive.

Fast Break Fridays are back baby

Looking forward to Live this year.