Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here

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Quote: Originally Posted by pietasterp

Can we just all agree to stop using the "if you want reality, go lace 'em up and play (insert sport) outside?" line of argument once and for all?

Totally agree with you pietasterp! It's like saying, okay developers, we know you can't do any better than this, so just shovel whatever you've got down out throats since "it's only a game". We wouldn't have something as elegant at The Show on the PS3 if all developers were getting this response from their userbase!

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Quote: Originally Posted by slickzeus

well after reading through the pages of this thread i decided to say something. Guys, its a video game. For those of you complaining how its going to be too easy and too arcade like, what video game isnt?? If you want the real thing then go grab your clubs and hit the real links! Thats about as real and as difficult as you can get. I enjoyed playing the demo and seeing as the last TW game I bought was 07 I will probably be picking this one up. I like the improvements that are made and that you can turn off the annoying ball trail. But if you want realism, pay 40 bucks to go play 18 with a cart....

Well, most sports games with properly functioning sliders. I could set MVP so that I'd only win maybe 55% of the time with a very good team. I could set old-gen Madden so I would win maybe 12-13 games a year with a superb team and when rebuilding might be lucky to win 5-6 games. I could set College Hoops so I would go something like 16-10 with a small conference team and be lucky to get past the first round of March Madness. To answer your question: good games aren't too easy or arcade-like if the options are there to tweak it as needed.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ComfortablyLomb

Well, most sports games with properly functioning sliders. I could set MVP so that I'd only win maybe 55% of the time with a very good team. I could set old-gen Madden so I would win maybe 12-13 games a year with a superb team and when rebuilding might be lucky to win 5-6 games. I could set College Hoops so I would go something like 16-10 with a small conference team and be lucky to get past the first round of March Madness. To answer your question: good games aren't too easy or arcade-like if the options are there to tweak it as needed.

the problem is TW has never had sliders. I understand your point. Do I feel that sometimes TW is too easy yes, but i know its just a game. Golf is one of the hardest sports to replicate because of all the little intricacies that can come into play.
All im trying to say is that it seems like everyone expects too much out of video games these days. I dont think games like TW should come out every year, instead updates would suffice. I think this could help combat some of the continued gripes people have with the game not changing enough every year.

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Quote: Originally Posted by pietasterp

Can we just all agree to stop using the "if you want reality, go lace 'em up and play (insert sport) outside?" line of argument once and for all? I have neither the time, nor the inclination, to go into how this argument is a complete non sequitor, but suffice to say everyone wants a different experience out of their games and if some of us want more realism in a game, I don't think that it's that ridiculous. Of course if we wanted to play real golf we would go do that if we could. Unfortunately, most of us work, and most of us don't have 4-5 hrs to actually go play as frequently as we would all like to. Also, most of us do not have access to Pebble Beach, Pinehurst, Bethpage (unless you wanna sleep in your car for a night!), or St. Andrews. And most courses aren't open at night, when most of us finally have time to partake in leisure activities....I could go on, but I won't belabor the point. Wanting hyper-realistic sim golf is no less ridiculous than wanting realistic football games or basketball games. If NBA Jam and NFL Blitz were the only games available to represent their sports, I don't know how happy most of us would be with those options. Well, golf is no different. I just wish there were another option out there for those of us that want a reasonable simulation of the sport of golf.

i understand what your saying and I do agree with you. I have never played pebble beach and I probably never will. All im trying to say is that people complain about every game about how its not realistic, but what game is. You can find stuff wrong with even the top "sim" sports games. People want to be able to experience the game as if they are actually there. That will probably never be possible in a video game. So we need to lower the expectations a little bit and accept that these are only video games. I enjoyed the TW demo and I plan on picking the game up today. And it will give me my virtual golf fix for the year.