Madden NFL 10 Ratings: Top 10 by Position (ESPN Videogames)

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Carolina Panthers

Steve smith @ 3 ...these are pretty good...Although i think deangelo williams is better than LT (Lol).

Not really. Williams as not really the best moves back(88-92) and I am almost positive they will overrate him to make his overall better(95+)

What makes him a good RB IRL is the fact that he has good balance and vision. Those are the key foundations of many HOF RBs(Barry Sanders, Emmit Smith, ect ect)He has ok hands and he is an ok blocker.

LT on the other hand should have his trucking lowered and carry raised(ten points). He has great moves in the open field and has a little less balance compared to Williams but he has better moves. He is an amazing catching back and he blocks well.

Physically speaking LT may be on the decline. He might not be. We wont know until the season starts. Williams and LT(when healthy) are about the same physically IMO. LT may be a bit faster in his prime but I am talking about more recent years.

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by iamaballa

And Brady has already proved that he can carry WRs like Branch, Patten, Brown, Stallworth, Gaffney, and Caldwell throughout his career and still put up all star numbers. As for Cassell, I'm going to hold off on making a statement on him - maybe he's the real deal - we'll just have to see this season if he is just a 'high school quarterback' or a legit #1 starter in the league.

Branch's best season with NE he averaged 62.4 YPG and had .3125 TDs per game. After he left his best season he had 60.1 ypg and .3636 TDs per game. His YPC were comparable both with NE and SEA.

Patten had a couple of 800 yard seasons in NE but also damn near had that with NO. He played his best seasons in NE but also those were the years where he was 27-30 and would have been in the prime of his career. He was decent there and had decent seasons elsewhere.

Brown was his best when brady was there but was primarly a returner before that and never played outside NE so it is tough to put up a real comparison.

Stallworth's best years were in NO and he also played better in philly than in NE. Sure he played poorly last year but he was banged up and playing with a hugely overrated qb who had half of a good season and was instantly expected to turn cleveland around.

Gaffney hasn't really been any better playing with tom than he had been playing with david carr in houston. He did have a few TDs in 07 but other than that was really better in houston.

Reche is actually the one decent example as he is the only one mentioned who had a solid year in NE and none elsewhere.

On the other hand before brady had moss he had never thrown more than 28 tds in a season and only once had topped 4000 yards. Also, he had never had better than 2:1 TD to int ratio before that, with moss and welker on the team it was 6.25:1. With the addition of moss there was a clear and consise improvement to brady's numbers.

Moss on the other hand before brady had 7 1000 yard seasons including one when he was playing so terribly in oakland, he had 3 above 1400 and one where he had more than his year with tom. He had also topped 15 tds 3 times and topped 10 6 times. He did have his most TDs with tom but other than that did not even have his best season.

Moss did more to help tom from a statistical standpoint that the other way around and as for tom making those receivers great, there were some of them who were slightly better with tom but most of it is just him being overhyped and people like you buying into it.

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hova57

I just wished that bcv would carry more weight. if your running back doesn't have high rating he should have hard time with cutback lanes. same for punt and kick returners, wr ,te and some safeties. as far as westbrook speed goes when he's not hurt their is dbs that can't cover him please. don't hate

I agree BCV and other skill and mental ratings need to have more impact.

As far as westbrook and people not being able to cover him that is not because of his speed but rather because of how quickly he can start and stop and how quickly he can reach that speed.

[Glorious Arc]

Quote: Originally Posted by kcarr

Branch's best season with NE he averaged 62.4 YPG and had .3125 TDs per game. After he left his best season he had 60.1 ypg and .3636 TDs per game. His YPC were comparable both with NE and SEA. Patten had a couple of 800 yard seasons in NE but also damn near had that with NO. He played his best seasons in NE but also those were the years where he was 27-30 and would have been in the prime of his career. He was decent there and had decent seasons elsewhere. Brown was his best when brady was there but was primarly a returner before that and never played outside NE so it is tough to put up a real comparison. Stallworth's best years were in NO and he also played better in philly than in NE. Sure he played poorly last year but he was banged up and playing with a hugely overrated qb who had half of a good season and was instantly expected to turn cleveland around. Gaffney hasn't really been any better playing with tom than he had been playing with david carr in houston. He did have a few TDs in 07 but other than that was really better in houston. Reche is actually the one decent example as he is the only one mentioned who had a solid year in NE and none elsewhere. On the other hand before brady had moss he had never thrown more than 28 tds in a season and only once had topped 4000 yards. Also, he had never had better than 2:1 TD to int ratio before that, with moss and welker on the team it was 6.25:1. With the addition of moss there was a clear and consise improvement to brady's numbers. Moss on the other hand before brady had 7 1000 yard seasons including one when he was playing so terribly in oakland, he had 3 above 1400 and one where he had more than his year with tom. He had also topped 15 tds 3 times and topped 10 6 times. He did have his most TDs with tom but other than that did not even have his best season. Moss did more to help tom from a statistical standpoint that the other way around and as for tom making those receivers great, there were some of them who were slightly better with tom but most of it is just him being overhyped and people like you buying into it.

I like the stats that you brought up but even on both sides of the arguement it does not change one fact. Stats/wins do not equal a strong arm.(this goes for many overrated players that win/put up good numbers and all of sudden in madden have amazing attributes that arent how they play IRL.)

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by jclentzthadon

Calling all ratings guys we need some serious help here... 1) Tomlinson was hurt all year, he is not a 90 in spd- more like a 92 2) Rivers has a weak arm, but it ain't an 81- more like an 85 3) Terrell Owens can still run, he ain't a 89 in spd- needs to be a 93 4) Brady has a gun but Rothlisberger needs to be higher 5) Portis needs to be faster- more like a 92-93 I just see some wild stuff out there...

One thing that needs to be realized here is 88 or 89 speed is faster now than it was before. They redid the speed differentials to make speeds more realistic and although I don't remember the actual speeds there is actually now less difference between and 89 and a 99. What is an 89 now would probably be comparable to a 92 or 93 before.

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Glorious Arc

I like the stats that you brought up but even on both sides of the arguement it does not change one fact. Stats/wins do not equal a strong arm.(this goes for many overrated players that win/put up good numbers and all of sudden in madden have amazing attributes that arent how they play IRL.)

I agree completely, actually said kinda the same thing on the last page. They always seem to overrate players just because they play on a good team and win games without looking at the actual gameplay and facts.

[SomeStrangeSin]

i dont understand how they give carson palmer a 87 rating when he was hurt most of the year. yet they give tom brady the 2nd highest rating in the game and he was injured the whole year that is complete BS

[kcarr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Obelysk

Interesting because the Steelers had 506 passing attempts compared to their 460 rushing attempts. Dink and dunk huh? in 2007 Brady was 2nd with Passes over 40 yards (behind Farve) and 1st with passes of over 20 yards. Okay may be its not fair since all we did in 2007 was pass right? Lets look at other years shall we? In 2006 when Brady had Cadwell and Gaffney as his #1 and #2 WRs he was 8th in passes of over 20 yards (manning 4th) and 8th in passes of over 40 yards (Manning 14h). 2005, Brady was 6th in passes of over 20 yards (Manning 1st) and 4th in passes of over 40 yards (Manning was 15th). Again in 2004 Brady was 6th in passes of over 20 yards (Manning 1st) and 5th in passes of over 40 yards (Manning 4th). I am sorry that is not "dinkin and dunkin." As far as pressure they are good but yes when the pocket completely collapses they are not nearly as effective, but I do have to say that our line is not as good as people think. After Brady went down our oline procedeed to give up the most sacks in the league, coinciden? Or did Brady make them look better than they are? Manning also playe all of his home games in a dome, and 1 more against the Texans, that is a total of 9 games in a dome while Brady played only 1 (in Indy) in a dome. Brady also did it against better defenses than Manning did: Colts defenses' played: Patriots 9th Packers 25th Jaguars 11th Raiders 30th Chiefs 31st Texans 23rd Vikings 28th Bears 21th Lions 22nd Titans 27th Ravens 6th Chargers 18th Broncos 4th Average rank: 20th Patriots' defenses played: Jets 18th Chargers 14th Bills 31st Dolphins 23rd Cowboys 9th Redskins 8th Giants 7th Ravens 6th Steelers 1st Browns 30th Bengals 27th Colts 3rd Eagles 10th Average rank: 14th As you can see Brady played against better competition and in worst conditions than Manning. Also Brady had 2 rushing TDs that year Manning had 0 in 04, Brady could have easily thrown those. Is not Brady's fault that the defenses couldn't stop him.

Actually when you figure in the teams they played 2 times it is closer to average 19th against average 16th. The pats still played better defenses but not to the level that you try to make it out to be. Also, what are we judging best defense by? Probably should be looking at best passing defenses.