Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

[Swingking77]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Justified or not, I think people are putting too much expectations on Madden 10 surpassing or equaling last gen games. It will take more than one development cycle to equal or surpass last gen games.

Really though... Is this not the saddest statement ever made by anyone about anything. Imagine if everything in life were like that. It will take years to get back to where we were over half a decade ago... And in the computer industry, where advancements are made every six months, that's like 12 advancements ago, using technology which couldn't even function to the level the tech of today can. I can see us now in 2050 or what ever, having to unplug from the matrix just so that we can go back and play working game of football on the PS2.

[SmokeCapone]

I feel its a punk move as well that they wanna leave the boards all of a sudden. I have said from the beggining that this plce should have came second to there own website.

If you feel the criticims are overwhleming or undeserved then you should blame those that came before you (IAN) and repair the damage as much as you can.

I expected this type of customer service from companines like this for a long time and how can you guys make a superior product that goes against what the consumers want?

We got fellas on here begging and crying rivers for not having mouthguards or long socks and crap when the gameplay is what is needed to be solidified first and foremost and then we can get to all the player specific details.

Madden has been the same until vick came on the scene and made a revolutionary change to the way we all play the game now, and they havent really built up on that change since.

We are missing critical gameplay features that for whatever reason just got forgotten about. One of those features was the defensive assignments that havent been in next gen madden yet up until now I think. And we ask what the Heck is going on if this a yearly cycle, we are supposed to add more to something special but EA is taking out.

I am tired of the casual game features that really dont help the sales of madden at all IMO and the same 3-4 million people buy the game every year regardless. SO whats the point of even adding junk features that get exposed and ruin some aspect of the game because it was paid more attention to than the aspects people really care about more and thats franchise and online.

EA has been giving people fantasy features for a while and i am sick and tired of it. The rewind feature is a complete waste of time and gives people the wrong idea of how football is played and it to me encourages people to abuse the no huddle a lot more due to the fact of soemthing like rewind and trying to make the play after you have failed to get it right the first time.

I dont want features from previous versions as a selling point and online gaming on madden is going to on its 10th year soon and we are barely getting it for madden after NCAA which sells way less than madden gets these features and it gets done right and now its like a blessing that we get maybe a watered down version of it due to the emphasis on useless gimmick features to draw in more people to buy madden.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Swingking77

Really though... Is this not the saddest statement ever made by anyone about anything. Imagine if everything in life were like that. It will take years to get back to where we were over half a decade ago... And in the computer industry, where advancements are made every six months, that's like 12 advancements ago, using technology which couldn't even function to the level the tech of today can. I can see us now in 2050 or what ever, having to unplug from the matrix just so that we can go back and play working game of football on the PS2.

Over dramatize much?

Just going off what Ian stated in February. Not everything you see on Sunday will be in Madden 10, but they will shoot for the future editions of Madden 11, 12, 13, etc.....

Madden has plenty of catching up to do. What happened in the last 5 yrs they can't possibly make up in one yr, technology or not.

[ken986]

Very good post.

I honestly believe Madden should split the devs into two. Think of it as how Activision rolls out a Call of Duty game every year. Two different teams take turns and they're allowed 2 years to make a game. That is why when a new Call of Duty game comes out, it's a guaranteed 9.0 and above. Better yet, ima make a post about this and see what is said.

[SmokeCapone]

Quote: Originally Posted by Swingking77

Really though... Is this not the saddest statement ever made by anyone about anything. Imagine if everything in life were like that. It will take years to get back to where we were over half a decade ago... And in the computer industry, where advancements are made every six months, that's like 12 advancements ago, using technology which couldn't even function to the level the tech of today can. I can see us now in 2050 or what ever, having to unplug from the matrix just so that we can go back and play working game of football on the PS2.

Whats so soad about his statement? Its true in all respects!!!

Look at games that do more on screen than madden does that have sequels based off of games for the PS2 era and comeback feeling like you do.

Madden should look damn near like gears graphically right now and since Im not big on graphics with sports and rather have solid gameplay i will focus on just that with your lame comment^.

Mlb Looks freaking unreal (in a good real way), I have not seen anyone steal bases by walking by everyone and I have never seen a pitcher hit the rewind button and take back that HR he gave up to lose the game.

Why is it all the other sports games dont have these weak features as selling points to sell there games?

Why is it that other sports titles still hold all the original features from there previous iterations and madden always seems to leave something out for something that cripples the game?

Online is a blast to play for those first 2 weeks until someone spreads IVD (internet venereal disease) to the rest of the community and now we have crap that needs to be fixed now.

Its criticism and its good with a harsh tone becuase we are loyal and have been madden gaming for ever and we even take vacations around the release of madden just because we love the game.

I wanna se more focus on gameplay and eliminating cheaters online on a more frequent basis. Stop the bum hunting and incorporate a decent feedback system that goes directly to EA and let the computer determine the type of play that was involved to see if the person complaining was weak or had validity in his claims.

Its like this, if there were no cars that ran on gas and say gas was something new and improved. Then why would you make the next gas car without a gas tank and try to sell having an ipod deck with an ipod as the selling point in the car if it aint going nowhere due to not having a gas tank or a smaller one. It just aint right.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

I didn't mention the CD team at all; wasn't thinking of them. I haven't followed the game religiously over the past 5 months, but it seems there's been little effort to level people's expectations. All the "Ian's a god!", "You guys are on fire!", "I'm gonna name my firstborn after you!" threads that proliferated over the months... there seemed to be no effort to dampen people's expectations on their part. Some have been proclaiming the game will be great for months now, just based off the hype. So imo they were just soaking it up since they were here all the time. Which is why it looks like a punk move on their part if they decide they can't be here if people aren't praising every piece of information they put out. Imo it's probably not a good idea for a dev to be so intimate with the fanbase anyway, because of the possibility of misunderstandings, or disappointment expressed that could lead to hurt feelings. Agreed. But whether intended or not, their community involvement approach this year increased the level of interest in this year's game and the overall expectation level. Imo it was intentional, because the general perception of the game is that it's been disappointing. I think it's that disappointment that has caused people to cite 2K5/2K8/old Maddens; the more they disappoint the more people long for alternatives. Exclusivity wouldn't be as much of an issue as it is if the games Tiburon were producing were good/great. Some like to act as if it's some huge group of disgruntled 2K fans that will never like Madden, when it's Madden fans that have become more disenchanted with the product imo. I've said it many times - Madden 09>08>07>06. At the very least, I would think '10 would be an improvement over '09, that's not much of an expectation at all. The problem Tiburon faces is that the game has consistently improved over it's previous version and yet many still have a sort of "meh" feeling towards the game. That's not "all 2K fans hating". There are lots of Madden (and general football fans) that are disappointed in the game too.

I haven't noticed this being a Madden Love Fest forum over the past several months. Sure, there have been Ian Love threads, but there has been just as much Madden, EA hatred threads as well.
It seems like that is a wash to me. I would think Ian's statement that not everything you see on Sunday will make it in Madden 10, but aiming for future editions would be enough to lower or temper the expectations. Maybe not many people saw that quote.

Plus, I'm not sure where everyone is taking for truth that Ian has left OS. He has E3 this week to contend with, plus three solid weeks before the game goes gold. I would rather he stay focused on the task at hand instead of worrying what's said on an internet forum. Plus, he's been back a few times since that time.

Personally, I didn't think Madden 09 was better than 08 at all. 08 held my interest longer than 09, so that is very subjective that each Madden is better than the last one. I want 10 to blow 09 out of the water and I have no reservations based on the information that has been received at this stage that it won't. I could be wrong after August 14th, but time will tell.

[MJenness]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Plus, I'm not sure where everyone is taking for truth that Ian has left OS. He has E3 this week to contend with, plus three solid weeks before the game goes gold. I would rather he stay focused on the task at hand instead of worrying what's said on an internet forum. Plus, he's been back a few times since that time.

Ian wrote this statement in his twitter, and that he thought the feedback on the recent video was "ridiculous".

[countryboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by MJenness

Ian wrote this statement in his twitter, and that he thought the feedback on the recent video was "ridiculous".

he's been back since that comment.