Madden 10: Did EA Press Reset? (Joystiq)

[roadman]

I must have missed the news that Madden 10 is out in the stores already.

Ian's not going anywhere except for E3.

There were 5 or 6 people that were banned at OS within 24 hrs. I think Ian will return when the dust settles.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nintari

I actually agree about the engine issue. The team isn't really the problem IMO, it's the engine. Take a look at 2k8. It's gameplay is superior to Madden and that's all thanks to VC's engine. Of course, reinventing a new engine this late in the game would cause some serious issues/hiccups, but it's probably the only way Madden will ever get back to the PS2 games of the past.

It's the teams that have created these game engines though. Tiburon has been developing Madden for umpteen years now; the game has gone in the direction they've chosen to take it. And this year we've heard repeatedly how great the new technologies are that they're developing. If we're still able to look at older and/or last gen games as equal or better at this point, then they deserve to be clowned.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by SAMKAVELI NFL FOOTBALL

as jack Nicholson joker said If you gotta go out Go out with a BANG HAHA tjizzle keep laughing homie this site has to much dickriding for a greedy company like EA.

If you want to go out with a bang, at least come up with some original material. You're just recycling the same old crap we've heard for the last 3 years

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

It's the teams that have created these game engines though. Tiburon has been developing Madden for umpteen years now; the game has gone in the direction they've chosen to take it. And this year we've heard repeatedly how great the new technologies are that they're developing. If we're still able to look at older and/or last gen games as equal or better at this point, then they deserve to be clowned.

To be fair, don't you think we should make the determination after 10 is out.

Plus, the mantra that Ian stated in February, What you see on Sunday, Ian clarified he meant not everything will be in 10. He said he meant 10 and beyond.

Justified or not, I think people are putting too much expectations on Madden 10 surpassing or equaling last gen games. It will take more than one development cycle to equal or surpass last gen games.

[TheCreep]

All of ya done went nuts. This **** is purely subjective. Me myself, I think Madden 09 is the BUSINESS. NCAA too. My games play out spectacular man. Honestly, I dont have to many complaints.

Game is being slowed down this year, and a gang of sliders are being implemented, thats all I needed. 09 was a tad too twitchy and fast, but I still managed to have great franchise seasons.

I'm trying to figure out where the disconnect between users is, its confusing me. Most agree that Madden 06 and 07 weren't good games ,but the next year is where the disconnect comes in. I've been trying to figure this out for myself.

Let me break it down. Pretty much everybody loves 2k5 correct? Myself included, which means we must have the same taste in football games right? Then, we all say that Madden 06 and 07 were garbage (we still have the same tastes). Now......How in the world can we all say the same thing about 2k5, and Madden 06 and 07, but then when 08 comes out, I absolutely love that ****, but alot of ya are not liking it?

See what I'm saying? We have to have the same taste, seeing our outlook on 2005 up to 2007. However, with 08 and 09, I most def observed greatness on the way, while many here still acting up and talking down.

I dont know, I honestly think that some folks just wanna hate on EA for some reason. I just get that vibe when I read some of ya posts. I just sense a bias in there (I know that sounds strange seeing that these are just typed words) but I sense it all the same.

Its like the United States of Wide America, superpower man, and the haters come out flyin planes into buildings n ****. I think thats what EA is gettin. Some of yall just hatin cause they're runnin things, flat out. Its like J say "Please leave it alone, dont throw rocks at the thrown" for real.

Myself (and I'm sure MANY others) aint studyin nothing some of yall cats are talking about. 08 was the start of it, 09 was the ****, and 10 is about to be filthy raw. I cant wait to get my hands on all EA sports titles this year, they're smashing everything in they're path. If you're not gettin on the ride, get out the way. This is a Madden forum, you aint feelin em, thats find and dandy. State your opinion then bounce.

[celg35]

wow , how many others after reading that post starting hearing a dr dre song in thier head

[Sauk]

To be honest I think someone was on some serious stuff

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

To be fair, don't you think we should make the determination after 10 is out. Plus, the mantra that Ian stated in February, What you see on Sunday, Ian clarified he meant not everything will be in 10. He said he meant 10 and beyond. Justified or not, I think people are putting too much expectations on Madden 10 surpassing or equaling last gen games. It will take more than one development cycle to equal or surpass last gen games.

I agree w/you, no one should be making any definitive determinations until they've played the game. But we're basically doing no more than what's been done the past 5-6months - commenting on the information set before us. Imo if they're going to sit back and soak up the praise for early information, then it only seems fair that they'd accept criticism of early information. As far as expectations, I think they have no one to blame but themselves imo. They were playing the hype game building expectations, instead of taking the less glorious route of trying to manage them (expectations).

Imo expectations should be high - they're the only NFL game available. And they've placed themselves in the position where they will be the only one for a long time. And it hasn't been one development cycle, it's been five - it's not like they're doing some sort of MVP-like reboot; they're building on work that's been done previously. I've read some people saying '10 is "a good start" - which sounds familiar, because people were saying the same thing about '09, when Phil Frazier was supposed to bring last gen greatness and usher in a new era. It was probably said in '08 also. It seems every year someone's saying the reset button was hit and it's a new beginning. C'mon - saying people shouldn't expect Madden to equal or surpass last gen games 5yrs into next gen is having REALLY low expectations. Would we be willing to hold other developers to that same low expectation?