Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (IGN)

[CreatineKasey]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Autumn Wind

The run and chuck is a big wait and see. So long as the CPU doesn't do it, it's fine. I'll never, ever play Madden online, so I won't have to worry about the Madden Nation crowd doing that ish to me. But it would be good if they made it significantly harder to do that and succeed. That's a big index, imo, of the game's commitment to sim or arcade style play.

That's funny, but also kind of disappointing (not disappointed in YOU, but in the game) that you completely refuse to even spend a morsel of your time online with Madden. Hopefully we can change that this season if everything goes as we expect. I agree with you, though. Those bad experiences just get burned into your memory forever. I remember some cheesy games clear as day... ('05 Eagles DE manual rush/2 man bump 2k5 DL glitch, 09' Scramble/lob).

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by CreatineKasey

I thought it was cool to read you can quick switch to a nearby offensive player and help push the pile! I can imagine having a fight for a first down or TD and trying to get the FB or another lagging OL behind the pile to help grind out the last couple of inches. It's kind of hard to take these kind of game reviewers seriously because like someone mentioned a few posts ago, their ratings don't really correllate with what we see in a game anyway. We are in the minority, though. What we care about isn't always what the standard gamer cares about. Like Ian said, the guy was junking around in pro mode. I bet most of us will never even play once in pro mode. We look at this in a different light, a different detail than the average kid just wanting to sling the ball around. Because of that I take the comments from the developers and group of OSers that played the game seriously, but other comments with a 2 pound *grain* of salt

See I'm still not feeling anyone being able to fling it 30 yards on the back-peddle with near-perfect accuracy, regardless of skill level. I'm more for the use of aids like D-assist for those who don't have the sticks or knowledge yet. Football is football. Madden has been a flawed interpretation of football. As long as they let stuff like that exist, it perpetuates a culture that has brought Madden to where we are all saying that it's broken. They need to take the leap of faith like Fifa is trying to and NHL and The Show. Not to mention the legend that PES is. Those games are acclaimed for trying to faithfully recreate the sports they represent.

Now before it sounds like I'm bashing the team, I'm not. I have much faith in them, Ian especially. But I'm just praying that they go all out with it, not half. Not get scared that they will alienate the fanbase or make it where little kids won't play it. If they are ever gonna have it where a coach can beat a tourney player, they've gotta get the game to be totally true to the sport and fun and accessible at the same time. Classic Madden gameplay needs to get shelved, just like Triple Play's brand of baseball.... Sim or Bust!

[dman1976]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan

See I'm still not feeling anyone being able to fling it 30 yards on the back-peddle with near-perfect accuracy, regardless of skill level. I'm more for the use of aids like D-assist for those who don't have the sticks or knowledge yet. Football is football. Madden has been a flawed interpretation of football. As long as they let stuff like that exist, it perpetuates a culture that has brought Madden to where we are all saying that it's broken.

Lol, I know. Saw some of the reruns on madden nation....

[NYyankz225]

I disagree. A kid playing on rookie should not have to worry if his QB's feet are set to throw the ball. I have no problem with allowing leeway with passing accuracy on lower levels as long as All Pro and All Madden are sim-like. Just like player speed differentials are adjusted based on difficulty, so should the effect on accuracy for running back and chucking the ball. That doesnt make the game any less sim imo as long as proper physics are applied.

[NYG 5]

how about they have people demo the game who have actully played the game, not some ignorant who plays on rookie

[MelMan1486]

Quote: Originally Posted by tron8

why can't we buy this game now. How the hell am i supposed to wait 3 months? Can we start a petition to have madden released at the beginning of summer haha

lol as if they don't have enough time already to make the game you wan't to shorten it?... I'd petition to have the game released every 2 years with a roster update in between

[USF11]

Quote: Originally Posted by NYG 5

how about they have people demo the game who have actully played the game, not some ignorant who plays on rookie

Theres a balance thing here, I am all for a realistic pocket no doubt. But the average joe will hate being sacked in 3 seconds everyplay.

The reason the show is so good is that it has realism and a steep learning curve.

[edaddy]

Quote: Originally Posted by BrianFifaFan

See I'm still not feeling anyone being able to fling it 30 yards on the back-peddle with near-perfect accuracy, regardless of skill level. I'm more for the use of aids like D-assist for those who don't have the sticks or knowledge yet. Football is football. Madden has been a flawed interpretation of football. As long as they let stuff like that exist, it perpetuates a culture that has brought Madden to where we are all saying that it's broken. They need to take the leap of faith like Fifa is trying to and NHL and The Show. Not to mention the legend that PES is. Those games are acclaimed for trying to faithfully recreate the sports they represent. Now before it sounds like I'm bashing the team, I'm not. I have much faith in them, Ian especially. But I'm just praying that they go all out with it, not half. Not get scared that they will alienate the fanbase or make it where little kids won't play it. If they are ever gonna have it where a coach can beat a tourney player, they've gotta get the game to be totally true to the sport and fun and accessible at the same time. Classic Madden gameplay needs to get shelved, just like Triple Play's brand of baseball.... Sim or Bust!

Excellent post man and I bet you convey the thoughts of a bunch of "SIM" posters on this site...While I am usually pessemistic and wary of developers coming to OS and marketing their brand without delivering on the final product..I get a totally different vibe and feeling about Ian..I think he is really trying to turn this Madden Culture around and make Madden a total representation of the sport...I don't expect for him to do it in one cycle though but I DO expect significant improvement from past editions as far as realistic gameplay and presentation...I laugh looking at that Madden Nation crap because it's not football..and I think Ian feels the same way...I think he is dedicated to making this where a coach can beat a tourney player...Let's hope we aren't wrong..LOL