Madden NFL 10 Video: Pro-TAK Animation System

[TDogg09]

All I know is both games look pretty awesome in their own right. Both have good qualities, both have bad. The fact is they're different and they're not going for the same thing-Madden is going for realism and sim, Backbreaker is going for more arcade (or so I read in one of the previews). We won't be able to make a comparison everyone is satisfied with until we see substantially more of each game.

[kmart2180]

My goodness that BB game looks more arcadey than Blitz....IMO. I hope for there sake they tone down the blow up hits. How about a normal wrap up tackle every once in a while.

If this is football being played after 10 red bull's and a pound of sugar, atleast show us the diesel let down you feel after the caffeine/sugar rush. Theres gotta be a slow point somewhere in the game.

[Valdarez]

Gotcha, I was just trying to understand where he was coming from, because his statements don't appear to line up with the video evidence, at which point I figured it was perception more than anything else. It's been so long since I played 2K5 that I honestly don't remember how well momentum was represented in the game. I do know from reading the forums that momentum was a big addition to APF2K8 though. Right now, I'm kind of viewing each game as a stepping stone from a realistic momentum / physics standpoint which greatly affects the 'ump' of the game.

BackBreaker > APF2K8 > Madden < APF2K8 < BackBreaker

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by TDogg09

All I know is both games look pretty awesome in their own right. Both have good qualities, both have bad. The fact is they're different and they're not going for the same thing-Madden is going for realism and sim

It's so funny to see that statement because that hasn't been Madden's goal in a long time. Funny, but good.

Quote: Originally Posted by TDogg09

Backbreaker is going for more arcade (or so I read in one of the previews).

Really? Can you provide a link to the story please? If that's honestly the case, then we shouldn't have any expectations of a realistic / simulation experience.

[hmoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

I didn't say anything about the player models, but since you mentioned it... yep, they are unrealistic. Have you ever seen football equipment like what they're wearing? Supposedly the game theme is futuristic. I don't buy that. I think they just took the models they had from their demonstrations and decided to just leave them as-is, and when people questioned it they had to come up with an explanation. It might actually wind up being the theme, but I think it's more patchwork than initial intent. I've never said Madden's animations are the beacon of realism, but I could certainly show you tons of wrap tackles even in "sizzle" videos. Wraps are truER-to-life, crash derby is not.

TheWatcher, you claim to be objective but you've said nothing but bad things about BB when you (and all of us) have basically seen nothing about the game. You should be neutral towards them. Yet, you ride on the p*nis of a game that has failed you 4 years in a row.

I smell fanboy.

Edit: Lol, I read the post again and realized you were just spewing a bunch of BS based on things you made up in that head of yours. Unbelievable.

[TDogg09]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

Really? Can you provide a link to the story please? If that's honestly the case, then we shouldn't have any expectations of a realistic / simulation experience.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/901/901664p1.html

4th paragraph down, right under the picture.

Quote:

Rather than gunning for the simulation crown that Madden currently holds, NaturalMotion is going for arcade gameplay that has the most realistic motion ever seen in a videogame.

[hmoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by TDogg09

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/901/901664p1.html 4th paragraph down, right under the picture.

The IGN writer wrote that.

BackBreaker Devs have stated many times that they are going for the "Any Given Sunday" and "Mike Vick/T.O. Nike commercial" feel. To me, that's realism.

[TDogg09]

Quote: Originally Posted by hmoob

The IGN writer wrote that. BackBreaker Devs have stated many times that they are going for the "Any Given Sunday" and "Mike Vick/T.O. Nike commercial" feel. To me, that's realism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVh0n...layer_embedded

That's pretty arcady in my opinion. I'm guessing by that statement though, going for an "Any Given Sunday" feel, it means really exaggerating what happens in football, which is not sim, it's more arcade.