Madden NFL 10 Video: Pro-TAK Animation System

[Valdarez]

It just took me one video to see that they are not all spectacular hits and they are not all exaggerated. There are some pretty darn realistic looking tackles in this video. If anything, the problem I see are with the tackle styles used (shoulder lean / tackle) which look all the same to me. The tackles though, look beyond kewl.

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I will say if you are going from Madden to backbreaker, then it might look exaggerated because Madden has no feel what so ever of player momentum. Going from APF2K8 where there's a very real feel of momentum and the change isn't all that much. The real change isn't the introduction of player momentum, it's the introduction of the random tackles.

[speedy9386]

Tackle Alley alone proves not all tackles are spectacular.

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Just like Madden, it's all we can go by.

Exactly. And let me point out the fact that if we removed speculation from the forums, they'd shut down in minutes. That's the bulk of what we do here, lol.

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

That's like saying ProTak is going to be unrealistic because everything we have seen to date doesn't look real (momentum, tackles, stops, foot movement). I don't believe that's the case with ProTak and I don't believe that's the case with backbreaker.

I'll tell you why those two points don't correlate... what people are saying about what they've seen of Pro-Tak is debatable. I've yet to find a consenus agreement on what's exactly wrong. Little things can be picked out here and there in anything, so that's no big deal.

But with BackBreaker, there is a consenus and an undeniable one. Yes, the tackles LOOK cool, but there is no dispute that all we've seen are explosions. Unless the definition of an explosive tackle has some meanings I'm unaware, so far that's all we've seen from BB. I also think that if it were their goal to make sim football, they wouldn't be showing these explosive tackles in every video since that's obviously not a representation of sim football in the least bit.

I just think people are setting themselves up for disappointment.

[speedy9386]

Hey Valdarez you beat me to the punch. lol

[speedy9386]

Hey Watcher didn't yoi watch the vid not all tackles are spectacular.

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by speedy9386

Tackle Alley alone proves not all tackles are spectacular.

I think every tackle in that video was pretty violent.

[roadman]

There are some good tackles, but there are a lot of flying leaping tackles as well, with a lot of misses.

I don't see that many high flying tackles in Madden or the 2k series, so, from where I stand, it doesn't appear sim to me at this stage.

I hope I'm proven wrong.

[speedy9386]

No they weren't I think your mistaking violent for loud