Madden NFL 10 Video: Pro-TAK Animation System

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by bxgoods

I actually am not the impressed with Backbreaker as other people are. It doesn't look like a sim, the tackles look cool, but very exageratted. And the character models are awful. I don't see this doing more sales than APF.

I don't get the exaggerated view. What you are seeing is real world physics in play coupled with the most realistic human model / reactions to date. Again, real world physics. Granted, they have shown us a few spectacular plays in their videos, but what you are seeing is what would happen if a real person were to do the same thing (or as close as any video game has come in real time... ever).

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by bxgoods

I actually am not the impressed with Backbreaker as other people are. It doesn't look like a sim, the tackles look cool, but very exageratted. And the character models are awful. I don't see this doing more sales than APF. Unless it comes out, that it has an insane franchise mode, or else its just going to be a rental game imo.

Franchise mode isn't going to sell the game anyway. That doesn't even sell Madden and the fact that Head Coach tanked--a game that was basically franchise taken to the next level (and done very well I might add)--is a good indicator of how little bearing it has on the mass' buying decision, most of which couldn't possibly care less about pricing concessions and trading fake players for 30 virtual years...

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tyrant8RDFL

I feel Madden 10 will be a much better game than 09, and hoping it will be a very sim game. I will give it a chance as a rental and if it does deliver I will buy it.

Same here, except for the buy part. I really like the direction Madden is heading, I absolutely love the fan interaction (EA Sports is top notch in this category IMHO), but I'll need to see it to believe it, and even then I'll probably just eBay it the first year or two, if not longer. It took them several years to lose me as a customer, it's going to take them several years to get me back (possibly longer due to the NFL exclusive license deal).

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

I don't get the exaggerated view. What you are seeing is real world physics in play coupled with the most realistic human model / reactions to date. Again, real world physics. Granted, they have shown us a few spectacular plays in their videos, but what you are seeing is what would happen if a real person were to do the same thing (or as close as any video game has come in real time... ever).

The fact that every tackle is an explosive one. While the occurences happen in real life singularly, they of course don't happen on every play and that's where BB is taking it... to the extreme.

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheWatcher

The fact that every tackle is an explosive one. While the occurences happen in real life singularly, they of course don't happen on every play and that's where BB is taking it... to the extreme.

How do you know that? You've only seen a few videos. I'm sorry, but that's pure conjecture on your part.

That's like saying ProTak is going to be unrealistic because everything we have seen to date doesn't look real (momentum, tackles, stops, foot movement). I don't believe that's the case with ProTak and I don't believe that's the case with backbreaker.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

How do you know that? You've only seen a few videos. I'm sorry, but that's pure conjecture on your part.

Just like Madden, it's all we can go by.

[Valdarez]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Just like Madden, it's all we can go by.

Fair enough, but do all of the videos truly show exaggerated hits? Honestly all of them? If I pull them all up, you are 100% certain they are all exaggerated? All spectacular hits?

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Valdarez

Fair enough, but do all of the videos truly show exaggerated hits? Honestly all of them? If I pull them all up, you are 100% certain they are all exaggerated? All spectacular hits?

From what I've seen, which has only been within the last 1-2 weeks, I'll say yes. It doesn't matter what you pull up, it's my opinion on what I've seen in the last few weeks.

The first video I saw, I thought all the players looked and walked like robots out of the stadium. I haven't followed BB for two years like others have.

I'm pulling BB to do well, but I need more proof in the pudding like Madden.

I'm not going on record and stating all tackles are 100% exaggerated tackles.