Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

[NumberOneRB]

I'd have to say I just about agree with everything he said, albeit the article came off as being a bit harsh on the Show. I would also include the fielding mechanics from MVP being MUCH better than the Show. I can't tell you how much fun my friends and I had making all the great plays in the field using the great right stick diving/jumping mechanics, and the meter throws to the plates were so smooth it was a thing of beauty.

There was just something about the hitting and ball physics in MVP that made me feel that not only was I in full control of my hits, but that no hit was EVER the same. The type of pitch, ball velocity, ball movement, ball location, and direction of the batter's swing all combined to give you the great organic results you would expect from a real game of baseball. While playing the Show (great game btw), I still sometimes get that feeling that the location of the hit is a bit predetermined regardless of the location of the pitch and how well I actually hit the ball, (some of the double play moments come to mind).

The Batter's Eye feature was actually a very underrated feature, even though it was simplistic in its implementation. I think if there was anything we learned about MVP's gameplay/physics additions, it was that although they were all relatively "simple" additions in their iteration, they came together so well and made one of the more pleasantly complex, organic displays of true baseball of any gaming generation.

[bukktown]

One thing RBI baseball still does better.... it takes much less time to complete a game.

[thdudeabides]

Quote: Originally Posted by NumberOneRB

There was just something about the hitting and ball physics in MVP that made me feel that not only was I in full control of my hits, but that no hit was EVER the same. The type of pitch, ball velocity, ball movement, ball location, and direction of the batter's swing all combined to give you the great organic results you would expect from a real game of baseball. While playing the Show (great game btw), I still sometimes get that feeling that the location of the hit is a bit predetermined regardless of the location of the pitch and how well I actually hit the ball, (some of the double play moments come to mind.

This is how an intelligent person explains what I was trying to explain a couple posts back.

[SDwinder]

One thing we really need to clarify here is what version of MVP 05 are you comparing here? The XBox, the PC out of the box, or the PC modded.

I never played the XBox version but I hear it was lacking compared to the PC versions. However, the PC out of the box was pretty mediocre. But, with the mods and data files, it became a completely better game. Graphics and playability became MUCH better.

With that said pitching is much better on The Show, no doubt. Pitch control was too easy in MVP. I prefer the hitting model on The Show too. Because of my personal on the field career experience, I want as realistic experience as possible without cheats and gimmicks.

That means no Guess Pitch/location. I do that on my own already. My bonus is squaring the ball up and getting an appropriate result.

That means no Batter's Eye. Might as well have a flashing neon sign stating what the pitch is during the windup. Same thing! If game pitch physics are programmed realistically, I will be able to determine what type of pitch by the arm angle/release point, spin, and arc of pitch. Just like in real life! What a revelation.

The Show does this stuff right. And when you put Fielding on Auto, but with Manual Throw, you have a very realistic game.

I still am not comfortable with the baserunning controls on The Show, when controlling more than one runner at the same time , like I was with MVP using a Logitech Rumblepad 2 controller, . I run into too many outs, because it doesn't seem intuitive to me. This is the one part of the on the field game that bugs me.

Also, I miss the Cut feature of MVP where you could choose to make a Cut after you had already thrown the ball. This is real life and should be in The Show. I really thought they would add that in this year after not having it last year.

[NumberOneRB]

It appears many are very critical of the Batter's Eye feature in MVP, and in many ways I can understand your issues. The one thing I think many are exaggerating a bit is the "flash" of the color around the ball as it was being pitched. We're not talking some super bright, "halofication" (I made it up, haha) of the ball here.

The ring of color around the ball was very subtle, just enough for you to be able to determine the color, and (like real life) there were pitchers in the game who were able to "hide" the ball well, thus eliminating the ability to pick up the color of the pitch.

I thought it was a pretty good, although quite basic, way of imitating a real-life batter's ability to pick up the seams of the ball on pitchers who didn't hide the ball well, thus allowing them to determine the pitch type for an added hitting advantage.

It appears that some of you got a bit off topic when beginning the debate about which game had the best pitching mechanics, but to go along with that, in my opinion, I think the Show's pitchin mechanic is the best and ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE. I don't know how someone could make an argument for a pitching mechanic which isn't based on taking the pitch break into account.

[jpup]

This thread is still open?

Again, why is there an MVP thread in The Show's forum? It makes no sense.

[thdudeabides]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpup

This thread is still open? Again, why is there an MVP thread in The Show's forum? It makes no sense.

Then why continue to post in it?

[jpup]

Quote: Originally Posted by thdudeabides

Then why continue to post in it?

to annoy you.