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Old 05-07-2009, 11:23 PM   #73
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Completely disagree about the hitting. Hitting with just timing based made it way to easy to get hits. I prefer the show where there is a randomness that allows for blowouts and also really close pitchers duels.

Also, I think the hitters eye was a stupid gimmick and would not fit into the realistic approach in The Show. All you have to do is look for a color and it takes all the work out of hitting. In the show after playing for a long time I've started to pick up pitches and develop a better ability to pick up pitches. Basically what I got from the hitting part of this article was make it easier.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:51 PM   #74
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I always had more fun playing the MVP series compared to the Show series.
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:10 AM   #75
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Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

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SCEA can post as many facts as they want about their hitting system- the bottom line is that in my opinion, I feel as if user control is being removed in an effort to create a more statistically realistic experience. It's almost as if I can tell I am playing against cpu logic telling me what I can and can not hit as opposed to me making the adjustments on my own. I have run into multiple games where I am able to initiate the exact same hit variation/animation 4-5 times in a row just by nailing swing timing at a certain location.

My point was that MVP's system gave the user far more control to do what they wanted through the zone. The MVP system felt completely organic in that mid swing adjustments felt completely dictated by the users actions. When I play the Show, I feel like there is some kind of disconnect from my virtual batter. It's a difficult feeling to explain, but I think there are a lot of MVP 05 hitting fans out there who know where I am coming from.
You got it completely wrong. MVP's system just required proper timing and horizontal location of the ball (inside or outside), and that was all. Hitting required very little skill on the user side, simply just press up and in with a power hitter and wait for an inside pitch ANYWHERE. Because MVP's hitting system was so easy on the user control side, the hitter's attributes factored much more into the result of the hit. Hence, you had less control in MVP hitting than MLB hitting. FACT.
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:11 AM   #76
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Play the PC version of MVP 05.

There's a reason it is still selling for $60+ on ebay these days.
I couldn't disagree more. I have the PC version of MVP 05, and feel it's the one of the most overrated games of all time. I think due to it's premature demise, people seem to place it in higher esteem than it should be.

I agree with the article on the baserunning, I hate the baserunning in the MLB series, imo, it's always beeen counter intuitive.

But to that end, I hated the hitting and pitching systems in MVP 05, particularly the hitting system, and I felt it's results were questionable at best. I love the fact that in The Show ratings matter, and there are a plethora of them. In MVP the hitting system, and ratings system felt way dumbed down. Power hitter up? Press up and inside and wait for an inside pitch. Whammo home run.

I also felt the franchise setup in MVP was ok, but not great, and somewhat simplistic.
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:57 AM   #77
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Whatever......don't add one danged thing to this game until the problems with the game are resolved. Give me THIS game next year, fixed, bug/glitch free, period. I don't want any new experiments with new pitch mechanics, hit stick, nothing. Appears all these "new" things might be what got us here in the first place.

MVP PC, loved it. PLayed it not too long ago.......NEVA going back there, period.
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Power hitter up? Press up and inside and wait for an inside pitch. Whammo home run.

I also felt the franchise setup in MVP was ok, but not great, and somewhat simplistic.
Exactly why the MVP series sucked; hitting and pitching sucked so much in the MVP series. How could a baseball game with a horrible hitting and pitching system be regarded as great or even good? Pitching and hitting is the foundation to a good baseball game, you couldn't build a shed on MVP's foundation.
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:31 AM   #79
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Best OS blog ever! Seriously though, this game was so phenomenal. I have not seen a better hitting system still to this date!

Keep up the MVP love.
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:35 AM   #80
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Re: Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

When it comes down to it...I do think the MVP series was overrated, but I also feel that the MLB series is overrated too. I think the truth is always somewhere in the middle. I have always found that games are never as great as people make them out to be, and they are never as bad as people make them out to be.

I cant think of too many (if any) baseball titles I have played in my life that I couldn't get some kind of enjoyment out of. But I have never played one single baseball game and thought it was the end all and be all of baseball games.

I think games can always learn/steal from one another and make their product much better. Lets be honest...you know the pitching meter in The Show? Where you think they got that idea from? And there is a lot of things The Show has that I wish MVP had.
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