Three Things MVP 05 Still Does Better

[myghty]

I agree with the article only on the franchise mode. MLB 09 franchise is plain bad. Just like he pointed out, Team Bus? Aerobics room? Come on, remove this. Plus its hard to navigate through all the menus. They really need to update this & be more interactive. These menus are dull & recycled. Other than that, the game is the best mlb game I've played.

[ryan36]

Quote: Originally Posted by bcruise

In both games the bases are represented by the face buttons, and they are used to highlight the runner on those bases for individual movement. They also both use the directional pad to command which base you want the runner to run to - if I press left on the D-Pad in both games, for example my runner will run to third without stopping. The ONLY difference here is that the Show requires you to press both the face button and d-pad button at the same time (you can press/hold face button and press d-pad too), while in MVP you can let off the face buttons. Is that really so much more complicated that it's tougher to learn?

Even in classic mode, the baserunning just isn't as responsive to me...in fact the thing that really holds The Show back from MVP is responsiveness. Throws happen 1/2 a second late, switching baserunners happens half a second late, switching fielders happen 1/2 a second late. Maybe a 1/4 second but it's like every time I switch something there's a nanosecond hiccup.

As far as the rest of this, MVP's owner mode did have more financial consequences, but I like The Show's. I guess it just was too hard for me to make money in MVP. I like the show's pitching mechanic better, but the pitches had more life and a more realistic approach. The Show's pitch trajectories remind me of ASB 04 with exaggerated pitching ON. My 2 cents worth

[cactusruss]

I haven't played MVP in years, but if I remember correctly, there was one thing that killed an otherwise nearly perfect hitting system in the game... and that was that you couldn't make contact with a pitch that was outside of the strike zone. It absolutely killed everything that was positive about the hitting in MVP.

[steelcurtain311]

100% agree about baserunning. Hell, basestealing in the Show is so utterly ridiculous. You get picked off constantly, even if you set the pickoff attempt slider on 0. You get caught stealing constantly, even if you're Jose Reyes getting a great jump on a breaking ball down. The runner just stops mid-stride for some reason and slows down on his way to second, making sure he's there just in time to get tagged out, regardless of the jump he gets.

When you steal a base, it is a dead sprint. And the Show doesn't replicate this worth a damn. I've found their basestealing gameplay so disappointing since the first Show game I picked up, they really don't do that aspect of baseball well at all.

[moemoe24]

Quote: Originally Posted by myghty

I agree with the article only on the franchise mode. MLB 09 franchise is plain bad. Just like he pointed out, Team Bus? Aerobics room? Come on, remove this. Plus its hard to navigate through all the menus. They really need to update this & be more interactive. These menus are dull & recycled. Other than that, the game is the best mlb game I've played.

Wow!!! Are you really trying to convince people MLB 09 has a bad franchise mode because they include a team bus and an aerobics room?? I've seen a lot of goofy posts about The Show but this takes the cake....the franchise mode is bad because they have buses and aerobics rooms..LOL. Come on man....give me a better reason than that. If you dont want to use them, I understand, I dont either. All you have to do is let the CPU control that aspect of the franchise. Is that really a good reason to call the franchise mode "bad"??

[steelcurtain311]

That doesn't make franchise bad by any means, but it is kind of laughable to suggest that an MLB team is going to be riding a bus across country for games. Even the worst MLB team isn't going to be subjected to that.

[IgotSyphillis]

The problem with MVP's hitting is that one could sit and wait all day with their left analog stick cocked in the upper left position and just wait for a high inside pitch. You would see a high inside pitch pretty much every at bat as there is no AI in the game to alert the computer not thrown high and inside when that is all the hitter is good at. This in turn made it WAY too easy to jack homers and regularly finish with 100 plus homers a year even on the hardest level.

I'm surprised you didnt mention Defense/Throwing in the article. That is the one area where The Show really stinks. The throwing meter when fielding means absolutely nothing. Whether you tap it or hold it down, you unleash a cannon and errors are totally random and dont depend on how long you held down the meter.

[steelcurtain311]

Quote: Originally Posted by IgotSyphillis

The problem with MVP's hitting is that one could sit and wait all day with their left analog stick cocked in the upper left position and just wait for a high inside pitch. You would see a high inside pitch pretty much every at bat as there is no AI in the game to alert the computer not thrown high and inside when that is all the hitter is good at. This in turn made it WAY too easy to jack homers and regularly finish with 100 plus homers a year even on the hardest level. I'm surprised you didnt mention Defense/Throwing in the article. That is the one area where The Show really stinks. The throwing meter when fielding means absolutely nothing. Whether you tap it or hold it down, you unleash a cannon and errors are totally random and dont depend on how long you held down the meter.

True on both accounts. I had some ridiculous seasons hitting in MVP, hitting like 60 HR's with contact hitters and so forth just because of how easy the hitting was. Say what you want about the Show's hitting system, it projects to the most realistic stats in any baseball video game ever.

The throwing problem is with the outfielders, and isn't as bad as it is just inconsistent. I like the way they take routes to balls and everything, but sometimes when you need to make a hard throw, they do that animation where they're just casually tossing it back in. It makes little sense. They just need to fix how the AI reacts to the situation on the basepaths.