Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

[N@X_WiZaRD]

Wow, great work. After just tweaking it for a few weeks, you already have an amazing running motion. Please please please keep improving the running motions. I've already shown this work to a lot of madden-related forums, and some of them are excited for the game for the first time. Frankly, the tiny stuff like equipment detail is good, but THIS is the kind of change that will bring 2k'ers and disenchanted Madden'ers back to Madden.

Thanks!

[dbshady]

Another thing is.... The Ball is too far away from Kellers body (I think thats Dustin Keller, could be wrong)... I would like some more tuck away on that, some movement in the arm, just closer hold the ball closer to the body.. around his left peck and armpit.

The more I watch it, the more I would like a little more upright... keep the motion, but it almost looks like he his a little hunched forward... I would say take the upright body from the 09 and use the new motion of the upper body.

The arms do seem werid, the body does look like its tired, or has a limp, and the ball is still held away from the body (the air gap between the ball and the body)... but its a start.

I would just say, a little more upright (with the same motion), ball in the armpit or tight to the chest (Tiki BArber?) with same motion, and no dive at the end (a simple TD slowdown to a jog).

A front view is not always the best we of judging this either, a side, or rather.... a behind view.. because that is way we will be seeing it in the game.

A behind view would be the best reference.

[KANE699]

Quote: Originally Posted by dbshady

Another thing is.... The Ball is too far away from Kellers body (I think thats Dustin Keller, could be wrong)... I would like some more tuck away on that, some movement in the arm, just closer hold the ball closer to the body.. around his left peck and armpit. The more I watch it, the more I would like a little more upright... keep the motion, but it almost looks like he his a little hunched forward... I would say take the upright body from the 09 and use the new motion of the upper body. The arms do seem werid, the body does look like its tired, or has a limp, and the ball is still held away from the body (the air gap between the ball and the body)... but its a start. I would just say, a little more upright (with the same motion), ball in the armpit or tight to the chest (Tiki BArber?) with same motion, and no dive at the end (a simple TD slowdown to a jog). A front view is not always the best we of judging this either, a side, or rather.... a behind view.. because that is way we will be seeing it in the game. A behind view would be the best reference.

I disagree seeing as it is a bigger guy like keller he should be leaning forward trying to get as much speed as possible to get into the end zone.

I've already commented about the ball, I agree.

[polamalu82]

Quote: Originally Posted by KANE699

I disagree seeing as it is a bigger guy like keller he should be leaning forward trying to get as much speed as possible to get into the end zone. I've already commented about the ball, I agree.

Dustin Keller is a speed/receiving TE. He ran a 4.5 40 at the combine. That's better than some WR's in the league.

[Valdarez]

They need to do something to separate the feet just a little more. We've mentioned leaning when running several times now. I think if they can add a little left + right movement to the legs that they'll find it makes the WR appear as if he is moving more into turns.

[Vikes1]

I do think the run animation is getting better.

But to be honest...it still looks "choppy" I guess is the word I'd use. It just doesn't look as smooth and fluid as I'd like to see.

[CapnKill]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

He is NOT hunched over..Its called forward body lean...Thats what happens when you run and want to create forward momentum...

Until you reach full sprint where you are basically vertical.

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

I agree, i've been saying for years that the players run much too upright.

Running upright is fine at full speed, that's what you should be doing.

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

I disagree bro...Backward Body lean...???...Maybe for Forrest Gump...But NOt for a real athlete or in Madden running animations Its forward body lean bro..Backward body lean doesn't even make sense unless you are slipping on some ice or something crazy like that.

Forest Gump actually exhibited very good running technique.

Look, when you reach top speed you are vertical, that's how you run properly, you don't lean forward, that makes no sense. You lean forward as you accelerate but once you reach top speed you are upright.

Look at the picture bellow, and compare AP in Madden 09 to proper full speed posture on the guy on the right and note the difference. Madden running looks funky because at full speed the athletes still have a forward body lean, which is incorrect.

[KANE699]

Quote: Originally Posted by polamalu82

Dustin Keller is a speed/receiving TE. He ran a 4.5 40 at the combine. That's better than some WR's in the league.

The thing is though due to his size he still leans forward more than ever running upright.