MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

[DrUrsus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Knight165

With the patch...the CPU will use the lineups in the roster control screens....CPU vs. CPU(simmed games)....but when you go to play a game....the CPU will then choose to use the logic based lineup instead of the set lineup(IN GAME...at the lineup screen everything looks like it's the set lineup) M.K. Knight165

One thing I would add that is important to know is that even if you set your lineups before the game or before spring training, once you finish simming or ending spring training the cpu lineups will get scrambled again. I think this is because the CPU is trying to use its logic again to make lineups. You then have to go in and redo the lineups for the CPU teams. Then they will stick for simmed games only (check the box scores to see) for the most part (you may have to babysit the lineups in case players fatigue and the CPU overrides you again).
Russell mentioned that the CPU tries to make gametime decisions about their lineups (in one of his posts responding to my question )when you actually play a game. The lineups will look correct, but won't be once you start the actual game.
Read my lineup workaround thread I started for a way around this using a second controller, and the aforementioned lineup fixing after spring training OR use Knights lineup fix rosters until/if they fix this.

[DrUrsus]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

Its like its running out of space.......If you play a couple innings and fast forward, you can always see them. If you play it out, it stops recording in the later innings. Just a shot in the dark- How do you guys access the Bullpen and pinch hitters? I do it through hitting start. But it seems like it stops recording about the time of a pitching change......

Sorry that didn't work for you (deleting Game save utility and/or game save files). So far so good with me. I do make pitching changes only by using the up directional pad method, don't know why that would make a difference, lol, but who knows with this game this year, lol. All this working around just to play. It's almost more work than work .
Fistofrage, now you and some other posters here have me worried it may just stop working for me several games into my franchise.

[Eski33]

Quote: Originally Posted by DrUrsus

One thing I would add that is important to know is that even if you set your lineups before the game or before spring training, once you finish simming or ending spring training the cpu lineups will get scrambled again. I think this is because the CPU is trying to use its logic again to make lineups. You then have to go in and redo the lineups for the CPU teams. Then they will stick for simmed games only (check the box scores to see) for the most part (you may have to babysit the lineups in case players fatigue and the CPU overrides you again). Russell mentioned that the CPU tries to make gametime decisions about their lineups (in one of his posts responding to my question )when you actually play a game. The lineups will look correct, but won't be once you start the actual game. Read my lineup workaround thread I started for a way around this using a second controller, and the aforementioned lineup fixing after spring training OR use Knights lineup fix rosters until/if they fix this.

I think the point is we shouldn't have to do this. There should be an option either to have CPU use logic when creating lineups OR user set lineups.

I haven't fired up the game since the patch was released. I am somewhat hesitant to do so. Any word on if a revised patch is due to be released to fix these issues?

[masterkembo]

Quote: Originally Posted by DrUrsus

Sorry that didn't work for you (deleting Game save utility and/or game save files). So far so good with me. I do make pitching changes only by using the up directional pad method, don't know why that would make a difference, lol, but who knows with this game this year, lol. All this working around just to play. It's almost more work than work . Fistofrage, now you and some other posters here have me worried it may just stop working for me several games into my franchise.

Haha - I've certainly spent more time on this forum in the last 2 days than I have actually being productive at work.

And now...it is home time.

[ferriscj24]

Quote: Originally Posted by DrUrsus

One thing I would add that is important to know is that even if you set your lineups before the game or before spring training, once you finish simming or ending spring training the cpu lineups will get scrambled again. I think this is because the CPU is trying to use its logic again to make lineups. You then have to go in and redo the lineups for the CPU teams. Then they will stick for simmed games only (check the box scores to see) for the most part (you may have to babysit the lineups in case players fatigue and the CPU overrides you again). Russell mentioned that the CPU tries to make gametime decisions about their lineups (in one of his posts responding to my question )when you actually play a game. The lineups will look correct, but won't be once you start the actual game. Read my lineup workaround thread I started for a way around this using a second controller, and the aforementioned lineup fixing after spring training OR use Knights lineup fix rosters until/if they fix this.

Thank you for the analysis. I guess I am still a bit unclear on something. Per Russell's patch notes, this bug was "fixed." SO I suppose it is actually not? Correct?

Also, is this glitch only when Roster Control is set to ON? Or does this also occur when you play a franchise with Roster Control set to OFF?

Thanks!

[ckarlic]

Quote: Originally Posted by masterkembo

Haha - I've certainly spent more time on this forum in the last 2 days than I have actually being productive at work. And now...it is home time.

LOL...same here..but for me its been this way since about a month before the game came out...the last couple of days ive actually managed to get a lot of "real" work done but since the patch came out im back to my old ways

[ktd1976]

The problem with the crashing is due to the added game in april between the dodgers and padres. Franchises past this date are crashing because this new game hasnt bedn played/simmed yet

[Russell_SCEA]

Quote: Originally Posted by ktd1976

The problem with the crashing is due to the added game in april between the dodgers and padres. Franchises past this date are crashing because this new game hasnt bedn played/simmed yet

Yeah I think we have found the cause thx for the help guys