Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA 2K9

[Jeffx]

Quote: Originally Posted by ehh

Great post, 2K9 was a major disappointment. It's such a pretty game but the gameplay and basketball fundamentals are atrocious. Your defensive points are the most important IMO. Defense in 2K9 is bad, bad and bad. The animations are another major gripe I had, glad you mentioned that as well.

Co-sign.

[Rocky]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

^ Whats funny about that statement? Do you not see how mentally ******** the defense is in 2K9?

I don't need to see videos, I know how crappy NBA2K8's defense is just by playing it (which I do routinely).

Yes, NBA2K9 has those super annoying sliding, flying to the basket animations that are not in 2K8 that much (but are in 2K7), but that has nothing to do with defensive AI.

Defensive AI was terrible in NBA2K8. Do you remember the unstoppable pick and rolls? Tyson Chandler going 15 for 15 routinely because there was not proper collision and animations under the goal to contest shots? Brent Barry going 10 for 14 from 3 because of there was not proper rotation when people left there man (NBA2K9 solved this, but not in the right way)? CPU not paying attention to defenders being 100x's worse?

Trust me, NBA2K9's defensive AI is no shining piece of gold, but every problem that was in 2K9 was in 2K8 and then alot more. (the switching problem of 2K9 was just the opposite in 2K8. Both of them were bad, but I prefered 2K8's.)

The big difference is....the CPU offense is more competent on higher levels. Which is to be expected when the computer is meant to be hard, not realistic.

[DC]

At least we had a COllision Detection Slider.

The Pick N Roll Defense was bad because the passing game was worse last year than what it is this year

[Da_Czar]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

where some seem frustrated because 2K tried to make the game more accessible and would rather 2K stuck to a more rigid structure.

Spank Personaly I have NO issues with them making the game more accessible but you can't do that in a manner that goes against the fundamentals of the game to where people who really understand the sport are not able to use real strategy that they could use in previous years in this years game.

The game did get much better post patch. but 2k were never really those guys man... not the last few years anyway where the game was so flawed right out of the box that the patch was needed to "save" the game. ( i know everyone does not feel that way)

@ Ronyell

I feel you but something feels very different this year to me man. Any other year I would be with you saying you know what your right but from their gaffs pre launch with the 2k insider and their "dna is nothing wait till you see what we have got" comment this summer 2k's game is off.

If yall remember after seeing the first video I was like ...ehhhh

We all know what a leap they made when super b came over and the game got better each year. If you recall the main one interacting with us mostly at least with me anyway was super b.

hear me out on this now. I am not making the one man developer type of argument but here we have him gone for the first whole development cycle and the fundamentals of the game are just not what we are used to and the game has more holes than usual in areas that weren't necessarily a problem in the past...

I look at that and I can't just go off the same old arguments we used before. Can this group at 2k regroup ??? do they even feel like they have to ????

These are the questions that I haven't asked about 2k since nba 2k4...

Then you look at the competition who is focused, hungry, full of resourses and their free agent game is lethal ...LOL .

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by NINJAK2

Yes! Another 2k bash thread. We were running low on these..........All valid points though that have been already discussed to death.

I don't think it's that type of thread. There's something up in the Live forums as well.

But it is old. Same people saying the same thing.... posting the same videos... rinse, repeat.

Either way, it's what OS has to do to "make the issue known." I'd expect nothing less from this site and I like that they published the article. But man... we just stepped into a time warp.

[statum71]

I just wish my players would stop missing point blank shots all alone, that should be dunks to begin with. Needing a running start to dunk the ball really ticks me off and hinders my offense.

So yes, 2K is indeed frustrating in areas, but I'll still take it over Live ANYDAY.

Live needs to start LOOKING like a basketball game first. THEN we can talk about defense and A.I.

[Hassan Darkside]

Quote: Originally Posted by statum71

I just wish my players would stop missing point blank shots all alone, that should be dunks to begin with. Needing a running start to dunk the ball really ticks me off and hinders my offense.

Oh gosh, I'd hate to see your offense then.

[statum71]

How good I am isn't the point. But centers and forward right under the basket is a dunk even in college.

My point is there should be something other than that dumb shotstick. It has a mind of its own.