Major League Baseball 2K9 Video: A's @ Mariners (Bottom 9)

[tmac55]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

No offense, but you "debating" the topic was in response to a general observation made by someone. It wasn't an incorrect observation, yet many felt the need to call it nitpicking. It did look a bit odd to see him toss it to the cutoff man. You may disagree that you should throw home, but based on your argument why should the AI even bother to throw it to the cutoff man? I agree that some MLB players might hold on to the ball. I disagree, however, that it's the right thing to do fundamentally. That's a separate debate though. You bring up your coaching credentials in this matter, which have nothing to do with the fact that throwing to the cutoff man makes NO sense in that instance whether you believe the play was a wash or not. If he ate the ball, it would have even looked better than throwing it in to the cutoff. No this isn't baseball 101 or a big deal, but nobody made a big deal about it until the 2K defense team showed up to say it's okay. It's a bit tiresome. Some of you complain about nitpicking, when it's really just observation. The REAL nitpicking is jumping on every comment that doesn't praise the game and trying to justify it. Disagree then move on...it's pretty simple. Yes it's a videogame, but it's a game that's supposed to be representative of baseball, so I'd imagine "baseball 101" would come into play at some point

Whatever, this is priceless and all because someone can't express their opinions and they jump on someone like little kids in a school yard with personal comments. No worries, I ger it some people will always never listen to both sides but that is not me. I tried to tell him to look at the vid again and he got personal. Mature people up in this thread.

Back to the video please like when I had originally commented. It's a logical play and it's impressive with the crowds. They were standing the whole 9th inning cheering.

[Knight165]

Quote: Originally Posted by tmac55

So in other words, your rant was just as bad mine as you are calling me out? Thanks for the advice. Take it from the pros I guess. Whatever, this is priceless and all because someone can't express their opinions and they jump on someone like little kids in a school yard with personal comments. No worries, I ger it some people will always never listen to both sides but that is not me. I tried to tell him to look at the vid again and he got personal. Mature people up in this thread. Back to the video please like when I had originally commented. It's a logical play and it's impressive with the crowds. They were standing the whole 9th inning cheering.

Excuse me?
You call me a troll and I got personal? I in no way "got personal".
You can't take a little ribbing?(and I even stated in the thread that I was half kidding with my comments).
You're taking this way too seriously.
Chill. Please.

M.K.
Knight165

[Mariners4411]

Quote: Originally Posted by stealyerface

If Ichiro is on second base, and that ball gets hit up the middle, and assuming the CF is playing where he was in the context of the game, there is not a centerfielder in the game that throws that ball home. They scoop the ball up, and jog to the bench. In fact, let's say that the shortstop happened to be playing short centerfield and made a diving play on the ball. The game is over with Ichiro running off second base. Period. I love arguing baseball as much as the other guy, but there is not a centerfielder in the game that throws Ichiro out on that play. None. David Ortiz? Maybe. Ichiro? Not a chance in hell.

exactly

[fiedler2k3]

Everyone here is talking about the throw that SHOULD be made to home play anyways no matter how close was Ishiro to score but,

1 - What happens with the coaching on that inning? away team with the game tied and the bottom of the nine, man on second and one out, you HAVE to walk the guy (at the moment that Ishiro stole second base) with 1st base open there is NO WAY that you pitch any hitter, you walk the hitter then setup for the double play, even if you decided to pitch with one out witch is a terrible mistake, and you are lucky enought to get the second out, you walk the next hitter then look for the force out.
2- The CF should be playing short to avoid what happens at the end.
3- No celebration at all at the end of the game.
4- The coach decided to leave a right hander pitcher against a lefty???

I hate to bring the other game but I have seen soo many times the CPU play as mention above on The Show, but it seems that until 2K redone this baseball game from scratch they are not going to get it right. After seeing this video I completely removed this game from my GameQ on Gamefly....

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by fiedler2k3

Everyone here is talking about the throw that SHOULD be made to home play anyways no matter how close was Ishiro to score but, 1 - What happens with the coaching on that inning? away team with the game tied and the bottom of the nine, man on second and one out, you HAVE to walk the guy (at the moment that Ishiro stole second base) with 1st base open there is NO WAY that you pitch any hitter, you walk the hitter then setup for the double play, even if you decided to pitch with one out witch is a terrible mistake, and you are lucky enought to get the second out, you walk the next hitter then look for the force out. 2- The CF should be playing short to avoid what happens at the end. 3- No celebration at all at the end of the game. 4- The coach decided to leave a right hander pitcher against a lefty??? I hate to bring the other game but I have seen soo many times the CPU play as mention above on The Show, but it seems that until 2K redone this baseball game from scratch they are not going to get it right. After seeing this video I completely removed this game from my GameQ on Gamefly....

You bring up some good points. I think the game ending as a whole was spotty, both gameplay wise and presentationally.

Some of that may be tweaked by the final, but I honestly believe that's going to be part of the sacrifice with the "real-time" (in terms of presentation aspects) in it's early stages. There will likely be many situational gaffes and inconsistencies, which may be why most games have not attempted it in this way. Innovative, to be sure, but some lumps will undoubtedly be taken here.

The gameplay scenarios are a different concern as it could mean for some cheap runs, outs, or whatver depending on the given situation. Not saying that's something exclusive to this game (it's not...every game has quirks in this regard) or that it will be the case when all is finalized. It's something to keep an eye on though.

On a bit of an aside, isn't the gamefly thing for rentals? Why drop it as a rental (especially since it's no extra cost in that way) and not at least try it? Just curious.

[NumberOneRB]

Could we all just relax a little bit and wait for the retail version or SimBaller to clear some of the arguments some of you are having? All the bickering in this topic and a couple others is getting really annoying to have to read through all of it. Lets all just agree to disagree and respect one anothers opinions as just that...OPINIONS. We're not going to know the full extent of some of these issues until we get our hands on the retail copy.

[bigfnjoe96]

Quote: Originally Posted by fiedler2k3

Everyone here is talking about the throw that SHOULD be made to home play anyways no matter how close was Ishiro to score but, 1 - What happens with the coaching on that inning? away team with the game tied and the bottom of the nine, man on second and one out, you HAVE to walk the guy (at the moment that Ishiro stole second base) with 1st base open there is NO WAY that you pitch any hitter, you walk the hitter then setup for the double play, even if you decided to pitch with one out witch is a terrible mistake, and you are lucky enought to get the second out, you walk the next hitter then look for the force out. 2- The CF should be playing short to avoid what happens at the end. 3- No celebration at all at the end of the game. 4- The coach decided to leave a right hander pitcher against a lefty??? I hate to bring the other game but I have seen soo many times the CPU play as mention above on The Show, but it seems that until 2K redone this baseball game from scratch they are not going to get it right. After seeing this video I completely removed this game from my GameQ on Gamefly....

You do know there were 2 outs when the game winning hit happen don't you? hence why the CF was playing a little deeper than normal. As for walking the hitter with a base open to get the force not every manager will do that. The point about switching the pitcher for match-up reason is something that would've been nice to see

[fiedler2k3]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxFan01605

You bring up some good points. I think the game ending as a whole was spotty, both gameplay wise and presentationally. Some of that may be tweaked by the final, but I honestly believe that's going to be part of the sacrifice with the "real-time" (in terms of presentation aspects) in it's early stages. There will likely be many situational gaffes and inconsistencies, which may be why most games have not attempted it in this way. Innovative, to be sure, but some lumps will undoubtedly be taken here. The gameplay scenarios are a different concern as it could mean for some cheap runs, outs, or whatver depending on the given situation. Not saying that's something exclusive to this game (it's not...every game has quirks in this regard) or that it will be the case when all is finalized. It's something to keep an eye on though. On a bit of an aside, isn't the gamefly thing for rentals? Why drop it as a rental (especially since it's no extra cost in that way) and not at least try it? Just curious.

If you dont have Gamefly I strongly recommended, I buy all my games from there, while you pay 60 for new games, you just get the games as rent from then, then keep the game for 45.00, in other words you buy the game for $45.00! as soon as you pay the extra money, they send you the next game available on your Gameq.
I usually buy the Sports Games, then rent the other games, but honestly, dont want to offense but this game is going to be a waste of time as always, I remember the good 2K3 and 2K4, but since then has been always a problem, I can live with dughtout same animations (some time wrong) with no celebrations, or bad graphics, but a baseball video game has to play as "baseball" not walking the hitter when Ishiro stole second, not throwing home, not calling a lefty against the lefty (all of this is on The Show) is like shooting a 2 points shoot when you need 3 in a basketball game with 1.0 second left or kinking a FG when you need a TD on FB game.