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Old 02-19-2009, 09:44 PM   #41
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Re: Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

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MVP was great for it's time (still one of my all time favs mainly because of the graphics, mini games and owner mode) but this seems to be a case of a 2 ft. long fish growing 6 inches every time the story is told...if you know what I mean Of course, no one's opinion can be wrong, you can choose to like whatever game you want, but I would rate MLB '08 higher than MVP '05, and thus believe MLB '09 will be even better.
I have to agree with you here. Even NFL 2k5 is not the same when I pop it in now compared to how I remember it. I did love MVP 05, but I remember one of the features of the game was the grass patterns. Hearing Kruk and Kuip talk about the grass before every game got annoying. I know it was a minor thing, but it still got to me.

MVP was great, but it's just speculation to say it would have continued it's dominance. It would definately have been beneficial to us to have the competition though.

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Old 02-19-2009, 10:32 PM   #42
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MVP 2005 was good, but let's re-think how they would fare today...

1.) MVP 2006 was marginally a step back. The rock-throw pitch meter was probably the only tangible gameplay sacrifice.

2.) Madden NFL AND NBA Live both did poorly on their first jumps to the PS3 and Xbox 360.

3.) Classic stadiums and alternate jerseys, as well as the stadium editor, would likely be cut for the new generation. I say this because alternates were cut from NBA Live, classic stadiums were cut from really all games, and the court creator in NBA Street was removed. It seems that with the upgrade in graphics, they wouldn't take the time to add back all of the accessory things.

I loved MLB 2005 for the PS2, but it may be like ESPN NFL 2K5 vs. All-Pro Football 2K8. Something gets lost in translation, and I highly doubt MVP could have recaptured the magic with the new consoles.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:10 PM   #43
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The greatest baseball game ever? High Heat (either 2002 or 2003).
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:20 AM   #44
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Hahahaha, the end of that video is hilarious
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:24 AM   #45
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I dunno, I think some of you guys are selling Show's ball physics and hit variety rather short. Maybe in '07 and years past, but the last few iterations have caught up IMO (if not surpassed). Its early to say but going by the '09 demo it seems they've made another considerable leap in this category. I've been consistently impressed with the hit variety, how it travels off the bat depending on swing and location, the foul balls, variation in trajectory and velocity et al. Granted I haven't fired up MPV in quite awhile, but from what I remember the bat to ball physics certainly had their own share of quirky rough edges (up on the stick anyone?).
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Old 02-20-2009, 02:18 AM   #46
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Those guys had no clue what made high heat popular. It was a pure baseball sim. The graphics were god awful even mlb 08 had less hit variety then high heat did all those years ago. Graphics mean nothing if the gameplay is not realistic to me. But then again, i'm a stat freak. I probably spend more time looking at stats then playing the game. And who played head to head online in 02?
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:47 AM   #47
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the hitting system in the demo still really frustrates me and seems the same from '08.
The hitting system is much better this year. I'm not seeing inside pitches being hit hard the other way, and vice versa, like last year.
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Old 02-20-2009, 07:49 AM   #48
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Console MVP '05 gameplay was perfect if you liked to never walk hitters or hit 3-4 HR per game.
You nailed it aub. Its the perfect arcade game, this is why it got old quick for me. The SHOW will be the near-perfect SIM to date this year. When i pop the game in i expect to play a 9 inning game over a 2 hour period, work the counts, hit-n-run, go the other way with the pitch, sacrifice, look for pitches in certain zones, etc.... This will not be accomplished if i mash the x button every pitch. Imo i believe the SHOW has surpassed all baseball games in the sim department, however in the minds of the people buying the game its hard to say. We live in a world of instant coffee, instant tea and instant success so its all about the attitude one has when they purchase the game. The devs at SECA know baseball and hopefully we all will learn how to play and watch baseball better in the future, because lets face it the SECA teams goal is total SIMULATION.

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