Fact or Fiction: Baseball Games Cometh Edition

[spitoon]

Quote: Originally Posted by Azamien

Wait, what? MVP 05 had to be modded to achieve anything close to realism in any of the areas he mentioned. I think people are putting MVP on a pedastal that it doesn't quite deserve. Was it good? Yes. Was it the best baseball game at the time? Yes. But come on, it played terribly out of the box, so to say that it's "still superior", especially in those areas (ball physics were a complete joke!), is revisionist history. What made MVP 05 great was the ability to mod it. Otherwise it was an average title.

I think this is the most important part of this 'argument'.

I spent as much time (probably more) modding MVP '05 as playing it. One time, when I got a new computer, I installed the game 'out of the box' with no mods, and it was virutually unplayable for me. On a scale of 1-10, MVP out of the box was probably a 6 or 7, but with the proper mods it approached a 9.

Now, given the fact that MLB '09 will not be moddable (outside of rosters), it won't have that advantage, but I'm confident from what I've seen that it will be very good.

[ehh]

Quote: Originally Posted by Azamien

I think people are putting MVP on a pedastal that it doesn't quite deserve. Was it good? Yes. Was it the best baseball game at the time? Yes. But come on, it played terribly out of the box, so to say that it's "still superior", especially in those areas (ball physics were a complete joke!), is revisionist history.

To say it played terribly out of the box is just wrong, so many Xbox/PS2 gamers loved MVP '05 and they didn't have any benefits of the PC mods.

[nemesis04]

Quote: Originally Posted by ehh

To say it played terribly out of the box is just wrong, so many Xbox/PS2 gamers loved MVP '05 and they didn't have any benefits of the PC mods.

They also kept things moving too with the college series as far enhancing game play and innovation. That was only ps2 though.

[ehh]

At least the beauty of this thread is that people are only arguing as to which game they feel is overrated. No one is saying that The Show or MVP 05 suck which is obviously good for us as gamers. Different fans like and look for different things in video games. It's easy to see why someone would be fanatical about either game, and also easy to see why someone would think one is overrated.

[swaldo]

Any reference to MVP 05 should be the PC modded version. There is a reason the price of a retail boxed version is $100 on ebay as compared to $5 for the console version.

Does The Show 09 justify spending $300-400 on a console & game for those that aren't Sony gamers? As for me playing MVP 05 PC modded + OOTP + MLB2K9 will probably hold me over. The Show will have to be pretty dang good for me to change my mind...

[vegaas]

MVP 05 was a great game, but yes it needed to be modded to get there. I remember putting countless hours simulating changes made to the tune file(I know it wasnt called a tune file, old HH reference, but same thing) by Bill Harrs. I would send the results he would modify it more and then more hours of simulating. This went on for sometime before finding the right balance. So who says MVP 05 was great out of the box is sadly mistaken.

As for The Show, after the disapoinment of 2k8 I bit the bullet and bought a PS3 just for The Show. I was not disappointed and I never had the thought that I wish I was playing HH or MVP. I had that thought several times before The Show, but not after.

[trm538]

the ball physics were ok. I played the game again the other day and randy johnson's slider does not move 8 feet across the strike zone. It was ridiculous

[Petocrew]

I'm going to get roasted but I haven't embraced a baseball game since Baseball Stars. I find that either a main component of gameplay to be all off in every game.

I realize Baseball Stars was an arcade experience, but at least it was fun for me.

I'm hoping that the Show or 2K game delivers this year.