Madden NFL 10 Blog: Player Ratings - A New Philosophy, A New Era

[shttymcgee]

Quote: Originally Posted by glitchditcher

The MLBs in a Tampa 2 play the intermediate middle, not the deep middle. The two Safetys play deep. So no, you wouldnt just line up a WR in the slot and send him down the shoot because the LB will cover him for the start of the route, but them let the Safety take him once he goes deep. Yes, LBs cover receivers. I never said they didnt.. they just dont cover them as well or as deep as they do in Madden in real life. Not even close. Oh and 40 yard dash times are irrelavent when determining game speed. They're a decent indicator of acceleration.. but not much else.

You are wrong. The DEEP MIDDLE is covered by an underneath defender in Tampa 2. The hole or "intermediate middle" is essentially uncovered as there is no "middle player," instead there are 2 hook/curl defenders that play aim closere to half way between the hash and the numbers (of course pattern reading could bring them inside farther) in Tampa 2. COVER 2 is a 5 under/2 deep zone coverage. Tampa 2 is actually a 4 under, 3 deep. You mentioned the speed rating, you said that LB's shouldn't be able to cover fast RB's and WR's. Yes, the 40 yard dash in exercise science is a measure of acceleration, yes top speed is rarely reached in football, I was only making it clear that your idea didn't make sense. Now, you're contradicting yourself by admitting that LB's DO cover receivers and your showing your lack of knowledge by not knowing the difference between Tampa 2 and true cover 2.

There SHOULD NOT be anymore separation in madden, there should be far far far less.

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[Cryolemon]

Quote: Originally Posted by shttymcgee

I think using a 5'4 150 lb player and 6'6 350 lb runner sort of shoots any idea concerning realism in the foot.

A small corner vs a large FB? Bettis was nearly 300 when he retired.

[shttymcgee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cryolemon

A small corner vs a large FB? Bettis was nearly 300 when he retired.

There's quite a difference between 270 and 350. 5'4 150 is laughable. I'm not saying that there's not problems, certainly there are. What I am saying is I don't know how anyone can hope to be taken seriously when they use player dimensions that just won't happen, unless a OL picks up a fumble and then starts running towards a junior high scholl kid.

[Cryolemon]

Quote: Originally Posted by shttymcgee

There's quite a difference between 270 and 350. 5'4 150 is laughable. I'm not saying that there's not problems, certainly there are. What I am saying is I don't know how anyone can hope to be taken seriously when they use player dimensions that just won't happen, unless a OL picks up a fumble and then starts running towards a junior high scholl kid.

Well, yeah I think it was an exaggeration. You wouldn't get exactly what he said, but you could get a guy like Bettis coming up against a corner my size (5'10", 185).

[LBzrule]

Quote: Originally Posted by shttymcgee

There's quite a difference between 270 and 350. 5'4 150 is laughable. I'm not saying that there's not problems, certainly there are. What I am saying is I don't know how anyone can hope to be taken seriously when they use player dimensions that just won't happen, unless a OL picks up a fumble and then starts running towards a junior high scholl kid.

Well that's the point though. To show the ABSURDITY of what happens by using player dimensions that will never be a part of the NFL. He displayed absurd, but it wouldn't matter. He could have thrown accurate dimensions in and would have gotten the same result.

[shttymcgee]

Quote: Originally Posted by LBzrule

Well that's the point though. To show the ABSURDITY of what happens by using player dimensions that will never be a part of the NFL. He displayed absurd, but it wouldn't matter. He could have thrown accurate dimensions in and would have gotten the same result.

Yeah, I guess. It's just that even seeing those dimensions automatically turns me off. Why, if you wanted to be taken seriously, would you choose those player dimensions?

[youALREADYknow]

Quote: Originally Posted by shttymcgee

Yeah, I guess. It's just that even seeing those dimensions automatically turns me off. Why, if you wanted to be taken seriously, would you choose those player dimensions?

If Madden is to be taken seriously, it needs to display the difference between absurd player dimensions.