NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

[bakesalee]

I'm a 2k player since this current gen (360) began, but only gave up on Live because like all EA titles, it was suffering from EAitis.

However I always enjoyed (as in, more fun playing someone) Live more in last gen (Xbox).

As I watch these videos I can't help but think that Live looks more realistic (player movements, passes). 2k can be pretty herky jerky, and I hate the weird robotic pivots to inbound the ball and stuff like that. It's looking less like a video game than the competition. I'm not seeing as many passes to someone standing 2 feet away. The court looks big as it should.

Maybe I just need something fresh.

[bls]

Quote: Originally Posted by bakesalee

I'm a 2k player since this current gen (360) began, but only gave up on Live because like all EA titles, it was suffering from EAitis. However I always enjoyed (as in, more fun playing someone) Live more in last gen (Xbox). As I watch these videos I can't help but think that Live looks more realistic (player movements, passes). 2k can be pretty herky jerky, and I hate the weird robotic pivots to inbound the ball and stuff like that. It's looking less like a video game than the competition. I'm not seeing as many passes to someone standing 2 feet away. The court looks big as it should. Maybe I just need something fresh.

I totally agree with you. I actually thought 2k8 was very fluid movement wise, I didn't they needed to adjust anything but the lead passing and revamp the lock on D along with making the dunks alittle more realistic. But other than that everything was good to me.

But after watching these 2k9 videos I actually feel as though they went backwards with the fluid movements. I'm not sure why so many people say live is herky jerky, because when you see the 2k9 vids its so much of that going on, no foot planting at all and the sliding is at a all time high to me.

In live when you watch the player movement and how they set up plays its just so much like basketball to me. Players move aggressive to there spots and agressively call for the ball in the low post. The fakes like there going to one spot then to another, you can tell it was 5 on 5 motion captured. But in 2k when I watch it, its kinda like the movements are lazy, players just walking around to there spots and such. Theres no since of agressiveness or urgency to me.

[jtdribbles25]

Quote: Originally Posted by bls

I totally agree with you. I actually thought 2k8 was very fluid movement wise, I didn't they needed to adjust anything but the lead passing and revamp the lock on D along with making the dunks alittle more realistic. But other than that everything was good to me. But after watching these 2k9 videos I actually feel as though they went backwards with the fluid movements. I'm not sure why so many people say live is herky jerky, because when you see the 2k9 vids its so much of that going on, no foot planting at all and the sliding is at a all time high to me. In live when you watch the player movement and how they set up plays its just so much like basketball to me. Players move aggressive to there spots and agressively call for the ball in the low post. The fakes like there going to one spot then to another, you can tell it was 5 on 5 motion captured. But in 2k when I watch it, its kinda like the movements are lazy, players just walking around to there spots and such. Theres no since of agressiveness or urgency to me.

what about actually playing the game. there's no denying the fluidity of the animations in 2k versus live. When watching the vids though, it's pretty close. I don't like how in live the players are so skinny though. I just finished watching the commercial, and I hate some of the dunks, just way to stiff. I like the big man finishes though.

[bls]

Quote: Originally Posted by jtdribbles25

what about actually playing the game. there's no denying the fluidity of the animations in 2k versus live. When watching the vids though, it's pretty close. I don't like how in live the players are so skinny though. I just finished watching the commercial, and I hate some of the dunks, just way to stiff. I like the big man finishes though.

EA SPORTS World: REPLAY

I actually like most of the dunks that i've seen in the game. Nice to me. And I just seen an offensive foul call out on the perimeter. I've seen not only D. Fisher setup plays, but Odom and Kobe as well. Very deep.

[jtdribbles25]

thats nice....im not trying to stir up a debate or anything. I think we can all find the good plays or nice moments in either game and promote that. the issue at hand is the greater sum of all...either way, I've allready ordered both games... It just irks me when people have this allegiance to a videogame as if they made it.(not saying you). both games this year definitely have merit, and live will be very playable for the first time in a long time...

[bakesalee]

The video above doesn't support my case. But the posted videos on this forum "Team v. Team first quarter" (or whatever) do. They look more like a real game.

I haven't bought a version of Live for a long time (2004-05 season) but I'm sad to see the "herky jerkyness" still present in 2k. Why post that here? Because I'm getting torn up for posting it under 2k.

I like how in LIVE, players don't run faster than they can move their feet, and when "stopped" they don't go from sprinting to statue-still with no in between. It's clearly seen in 2k (player warm ups, in-game animations too) how they "look real" but when they stop moving they just kind of freeze. Rips me from being immersed.

From what someone else said too, 2k does kind of look like 1 on 1 times 5 (if this makes any sense) instead of 5 on 5. I know that sounds weird, but from the broadcast view (again, not the video a few posts up), Live actually looks like real ball. Players feet appear to be making contact with the floor. The court looks big enough. Players don't pass the ball forward/backwards to someone standing behind them.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by bakesalee

2k does kind of look like 1 on 1 times 5 (if this makes any sense) instead of 5 on 5.

I don't agree but many say that about the NBA today.

[sportyguyfl31]

I cant believe that I have come to this decision, but I honestly think that I wont be getting a NBA 2k game this year.

I have been playing 2k since NBA 2k5 since it has been, without question, the superior product...and have been enjoying it.

Live has me sold so far. I gotta tighten the old finincial belt for the next few months, so its only 1 hoops game for me this year, and for the first time in 5 yrs, Live has a serious shot of being that game.

The 2k series is excellent and all, but I feel like I have been seeing essentially the same game since 2k7.