NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

[DakkoN]

That might be how he shoots in practice but that is definitely not how he shoots in a game and that's why it looks bad. That's one of the bad things with mo capping shots because most guys are not going to put the full effort into doing it and are instead going to shoot like they are doing warmups.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Quote: Originally Posted by DakkoN

That might be how he shoots in practice but that is definitely not how he shoots in a game and that's why it looks bad. That's one of the bad things with mo capping shots because most guys are not going to put the full effort into doing it and are instead going to shoot like they are doing warmups.

Exactly. If you watch Pierce in the warm ups it's different every time. It's sort of half-assed.

[bigeastbumrush]

Quote: Originally Posted by DakkoN

That might be how he shoots in practice but that is definitely not how he shoots in a game and that's why it looks bad. That's one of the bad things with mo capping shots because most guys are not going to put the full effort into doing it and are instead going to shoot like they are doing warmups.

Yeah, but to say that no game has gotten his sig shot right makes it seem like the devs fault.

[left4dead]

Anyone else also disappointed with Kobe's signature shot? It looks NOTHING like how Kobe shoots in real life. Not the form, not the release and definitely not the jump. How can EA mess up the signature shot of the league's most notable and best player?

[23bluesman]

Quote: Originally Posted by left4dead

Anyone else also disappointed with Kobe's signature shot? It looks NOTHING like how Kobe shoots in real life. Not the form, not the release and definitely not the jump. How can EA mess up the signature shot of the league's most notable and best player?

I think it looks good actually. Not perfect, but good. Compare these two:

Kobe jumpshot:
http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikebas...er=kobe_bryant

Live Kobe jumpshot:
http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/777457

Now what I want for Live 2010 is this move by Kobe (follow the link, then click on his pull-up jumper move):
http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikebas...er=kobe_bryant

It's just a simple pull-up jumper from a hard dribble. The thing is though, it is not a straight-up jumper, and it's not a strong fade also - he sort of fades a little bit, with a small leg extension. In Live, you can do a straight-up jumper and an exaggerated fade (with the high leg kick) from a hard dribble, but not a soft fade such as this. Hopefully in 2010 we can choose to perform a hard or soft fade.

[left4dead]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23bluesman

I think it looks good actually. Not perfect, but good. Compare these two: Kobe jumpshot: http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikebas...er=kobe_bryant Live Kobe jumpshot: http://www.easportsworld.com/en_US/video/777457 Now what I want for Live 2010 is this move by Kobe (follow the link, then click on his pull-up jumper move): http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikebas...er=kobe_bryant It's just a simple pull-up jumper from a hard dribble. The thing is though, it is not a straight-up jumper, and it's not a strong fade also - he sort of fades a little bit, with a small leg extension. In Live, you can do a straight-up jumper and an exaggerated fade (with the high leg kick) from a hard dribble, but not a soft fade such as this. Hopefully in 2010 we can choose to perform a hard or soft fade.

2 things I immediately noticed with Live 09's Kobe signature shot.

1. he jumps way too high (as compared to his real life shooting form)

2. he has a slight 'hitch' (which he does not have in real life).

The former probably bothers me more than the latter because it completely changes/ruins the signature shot. Having played the NBA 09 demo a bunch of times....they probably did a better job of getting Kobe's sig down more accurately than EA (and they probably don't even have player "signature shots" incorporated in their game, LOL).

[23bluesman]

Yeah the height is tricky, that Nike vid that I posted probably isn't a good indicator because he's doing it casually, but obviously during real games the height on his jumpshot varies.

Check out this vid. I loved this particular game because of the plethora of jumpshots that Kobe showed, sometimes even doing the fade with the high kick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFj4762ICZA

As you can see some jumpshots are high, and while not as high as the Live vid, higher than his casual jumpshot in the Nike one.

Interesting comment regarding NBA 09, I might dl it tonight if I'm bored just too see Kobe's shot.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush

Yeah, but to say that no game has gotten his sig shot right makes it seem like the devs fault.

That might be true, but who's fault is it then? The truth is no game has gotten it right, regardless of what they try to do in order to make it look real.