NBA 2K9 Video: Wizards vs. Raptors

[DC]

Yall can jump on dude if you want but he is right with many points

Commentary is garbage and has been for 4 years now. It is time for a change

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That commentary complaint is just a nitpick. As Ive said before 98% of sports games have subpar commentary. Its almost impossible for commentary not to get stale. I love th Show's commentary and that gets old after about 3 mos.

Don't use that "Most sports games have bad commentary" cop out." Most sports games didn't put on their boxes, "Dynamic commentary" when all they did was add a pedofile voice tone when players are shooting free throws (2K7 to 2K8). It is one thing to accept having bad commentary but for them (2K) to PROMOTE NEW commentary is what is even MORE upsetting.

And yes all commentary EVENTUALLY goes stale just like all vagina eventually goes stale. But some has a longer shelf life/replay value than others

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by fluent2332

I haven't seen one person say that Live is the better game, nor have I seen anyone say it needs an 'overhaul', although like you said in some areas it does. 2K is still the better game, 2 years ahead of Live IMO, but they still have a ways to go before its a complete NBA sim. Where is this revamped commentary?? TV-like presentation? Why do all teams play the same, and have since 2k6 (again, when "sig style" was invented)? Why is the A.I. still bad? I've played 2K since 2K4, but this was the first year that based on the gameplay videos, I was checking out the competition. 2K could blow Live out of the water, they just choose not to. Either that or they really don't have good direction over there.

You haven't been looking then because I've seen plenty of people say it. I agree the commentary doesn't sound better, but then again it's not a deal breaker for me. Seems 2k writes bad scripts or doesn't know how to direct or implement the commentary in a more natural manner.

As far as TV-style presentation no other bball game has come close to what I've seen in the videos for NBA 2k9. I don't know where you're coming from with that, and even if I did I probably still wouldn't agree. As far as everything else I'm reserving judgement until I actually PLAY the game. I remember people used to do that, seems different nowadays.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by fluent2332

It's harder to notice 2K's improvements because the improvements are not drastic, or haven't been improved at all. It's not like 2K is so close to perfection that they just can't improve it, but I really believe the people at 2K think that. For one, they honestly must believe the commentary is good, because they literally just took the formula they have been using, and "tightened" it up, to sound even more robotic and stale. You have to question the direction they are going in.

I don't know if this post should be taken seriously. Have you not seen the videos?

I don't understand how you can make statements like that. Questioning the developer's decisions when you haven't even played the game yet.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican

Yall can jump on dude if you want but he is right with many points Commentary is garbage and has been for 4 years now. It is time for a change

The only point he was even close to being right on was commentary. The only solution for that is to hire actors like they did for APF and NFL who can record commentary for weeks at a time. If you use famous play by play men, they have limited time and cant record a large amount of commentary. Harlan calls NBA, NFL and MLB games so he doesnt have time to record hours and hours of commentary.

[fluent2332]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Are you watching the videos? That doesnt look like TV-Style Presentation to you? They have replays at timeouts and deadballs, they have player info during FTs and end of game highlights. What more do you want? That commentary complaint is just a nitpick. As Ive said before 98% of sports games have subpar commentary. Its almost impossible for commentary not to get stale. I love th Show's commentary and that gets old after about 3 mos. I wont even respond to the bad A.I comment. Thats just ridiculous.

They still have ridiculous gameplay-interrupting replays. I see them on TV all the time. I'll give you the stat overlays, but no way is commentary a nitpick. Live's commentary is good, this commentary is HORRENDOUS. It's really so bad that I would turn it off. It goes like this, made shot = terrible one-liner. It's so bad, that it sucks the life out of the game. Not to mention it's the same damn script as the past 2 years, when they promised revamped commentary. It's so bad, that the color commentator said "you knew that one was good as soon as it left his hand" on a FREE THROW.

2K presentation producer, what the hell are you thinking?

The game looks STERILE, stale, and like I've played it before. The individual and team A.I. are still nowhere near close to playing like their real-life counterparts. Why don't they add team or coach specific playsets? Watch, try playing Association and tell me that all the teams don't play the same. It's been the same since forever and you know that, yet it's an area they could EASILY improve.

And I'm not trying to bash it, this is what it is to me. I'm a hardcore 2K player, but I can't change what I see.

[DC]

Fluent again I say, it is EASIER to see the improvements of Reggie Evans post game than it would to see the improvements of Tim Duncan's post game over the span of an offseason

[Hassan Darkside]

Quote: Originally Posted by fluent2332

I meant in the context of this thread and the few threads lately that have had posts containing a breakdown of gameplay videos. Most who have criticisms of 2K and reference Live as making strides still believe that 2K is the better game.

Ah, I got you. But in numerous other threads there have been people saying that the game needs an overhaul, from commentary to the entire engine.

I'm just banking on Charles Barkley, Ernie Johnson, and Kenny Smith for 2k10! Commentary would be amaaaazing.

It also irks me that even Clark Kellogg gets stuck with the exact same lines that Kenny had in 2k8 (and 2k7, 2k6).

[DC]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

The only point he was even close to being right on was commentary. The only solution for that is to hire actors like they did for APF and NFL who can record commentary for weeks at a time. If you use famous play by play men, they have limited time and cant record a large amount of commentary. Harlan calls NBA, NFL and MLB games so he doesnt have time to record hours and hours of commentary.

Which is why I said they are wasting their got damn $ flying in Harlan and whoever the hell else they use