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Old 09-08-2008, 05:00 PM   #65
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If 2k is held to a higher standard, it's because it has been the highest standard in bball gaming. That's just natural.
And people are willing to jump ship to a less developed product because of it.

Call me crazy, but I don't see how that's natural. Call it what you will. It's borderline unfair as I see a double standard that continues to echo throughout the forum.

2k is out to please the purists but they've proven time and time again they're a fickle bunch who aren't easy to please. Other companies are trying to please everyone and winning fans in the process.

It's pretty ironic if you take a step back and look at the big picture.
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If that's the case, are you not going to play any basketball game at all this year?

All three games have their oddities... I don't see why it seems like 2k is being held to a higher standard, IMO.

2K has always been held to a higher standard around here Pared. 2k has to be the perfect sim and Live only has to improve on their previous effort to get some props.

What did you mean by your previous post when you said waaaaaaaaaalllk and the phrase it's coming? Will there be traveling in 2k9 other than traveling committed by not releasing the ball on a shot attempt? Am I just off base with my post?
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If that's the case, are you not going to play any basketball game at all this year?

All three games have their oddities... I don't see why it seems like 2k is being held to a higher standard, IMO.
I ended up trading my nba 2k8 because of the nagging issues. The live series we all know needed a lot of work...so we know whats going on there they are playing catch up. But with the 2k series we have known them to have the better product. With NBA being their main sports game with football gone im just expecting more from 2k man. Im hoping the final build will be a gem. I will play the games regardless but instead of a purchase it could be a rental depending on how the gameplay is.
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And people are willing to jump ship to a less developed product because of it.

Call me crazy, but I don't see how that's natural. Call it what you will. It's borderline unfair as I see a double standard that continues to echo throughout the forum.

2k is out to please the purists but they've proven time and time again they're a fickle bunch who aren't easy to please. Other companies are trying to please everyone and winning fans in the process.
I think that bit about jumping ship is all talk. I don't personally know anyone who purchased NBA Live and didn't purchase 2k. Regardless, I'm not talking about people who are saying they'll get Live instead of 2k. I'm saying it's natural to expect Live to be between a 6 and 7.5, and to expect 2k to be between an 8 and a 10. From there, it's natural to discuss the two games within that context.

I'm not talking about buying a mediocre game instead of a great game. That's ridiculous to me. The logic is that "I'd rather have something new than the same old thing with the same old problems". In a very small way, I kind of understand, because if you feel that the sequel is still the same you can just pop in last year's game whenever you want the feeling of that franchise.

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It's pretty ironic if you take a step back and look at the big picture.
I could be wrong, but I think 2k has actually been gaining ground the last couple of years. That whole "best reviewed basketball game" bit seems to be working out for them. Most people I meet seem to know that it's the better game. I remember when most people only knew about Live.
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Pared all people are asking for is a SIM Lobby. I don't think that is much to ask for. With preset NON-DEFAULT sliders that is targerted for sim play. Simple request.
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U know what!? And I don't mean this 2 be offensive...just real...

U guys are spoiled brats!


IT'S A DAMN VIDEO GAME 4 CHRIST'S SAKE!!!

It's the best one out and ya'll want it 2 be so realistic that it saps all the fun out of the game!

Maybe I'm more appreciative cause I know what it is 2 play Double Dribble and can acknowledge the huge strides made and still being made in sports titles.

A lot of u guys need 2 chill out...seriously

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What makes you think a game being very realistic isn't fun to US?

It isn't "sapping" the fun out of it for us by ANY stretch.

It didn't know there was a sliding scale; Realism vs Fun
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What makes you think a game being very realistic isn't fun to US?

It isn't "sapping" the fun out of it for us by ANY stretch.

It didn't know there was a sliding scale; Realism vs Fun
Yeah, I thought this was about loving the organized game of basketball. There is nothing wrong with trying to get closer to the real life game. For me at least, the ideal is to have real life knowledge of bball translate directly to video game success. Same way Rock Band is easier for real drummers and singers.
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