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Old 08-28-2008, 06:06 AM   #313
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Re: Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

This is good news, now ill only be on hold from playing madden 3 weeks. If you have to keep making patches and can't work on 2010 guess thats what you will just have to do. This isn't are problem, we paid for the game not a rough version. This game shouldn't have been released with all these problems.
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:29 AM   #314
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specific reason: Ian had nothing to do with the problems he and his team are fixing.

This is where the second group are the guys that are in the wrong here. Ian was not on the 2009 team, he was not responsible for the problems that exist, but he IS fixing them. Why should he NOT be thanked for fixing something that wasn't his fault in the first place?

If Ian is guilty of anything, it's putting faith in folks who hadn't earned it.
EA is repsonsible for Madden and put out a buggy game. Ian works for EA plan and simple. Ian isn't fixing the game on his own time, he isn't paying his team out of his own pocket. EA is fixing the broken game they released, not Ian and EA should not be thanked for fixing a game they released broken.

The only thing Ian should be thanked for is posting on these forums, answering questions and what not. On the other hand, praising him for doing his job seems a little bit out there.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:04 AM   #315
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Here's the disconnect I'm seeing.

There seem to be three types of people in this thread.

The EA attackers-- People who are using Ian as the "personification" of EA and are sort of attacking EA through him.

The Ian Attackers-- unjustifiable. People who are blaming Ian directly.

The Thankers-- People being indirectly attacked for being appreciative of EA's current effort.

I can actually somewhat understand the first group. They're disappointed in the product and lashing out.

The third group, I'm part of. I appreciate Ian's efforts for a very specific reason: Ian had nothing to do with the problems he and his team are fixing.

This is where the second group are the guys that are in the wrong here. Ian was not on the 2009 team, he was not responsible for the problems that exist, but he IS fixing them. Why should he NOT be thanked for fixing something that wasn't his fault in the first place?

If Ian is guilty of anything, it's putting faith in folks who hadn't earned it.
You are missing a group. The people who like the game are thankful for the fixes that they didn't have to make but are upset about the freezing issues that shouldn't have made the disk.

Look man I like EA ,always have. It is just the last two years franchise mode has had freezing issues. I buy about a lot of games every year and I haven't bought one other game that freezes on me. (ps2 or 3) I have owned every madden since it first came out and only the last two years of ps3 have crashes on me. I think I have bought about 15 ps3 games and only madden 08 and 09 have crashed. No one expects to buy a game and have it freeze. I am not pissed like I was last year. I am not calling EA crap or anyone else. But I am not jumping up and down when they fix THIS (freezing) issue, it is a must fix for any game developer.

I do think Ian was on the 09 team. I have read a ton of posts prior to the release of this game where he was tweaking the gamplay, using our input which is awesome. I think I even read you posting on one of them, I think he quoted you from another site. I thought he was the gameplay lead on 09? I could be wrong but that was my understanding. Ian is a great guy. I am not blaming him in any regards I think he is probably the best guy for us comminity guys on the team ever. I think 2010, if it doesn't crash, will by far be the best madden ever for franchise people.

Anyway, I agree with TJ now this post is so far off the topic of the patch that I am not going to responde to any thing but that topic any more.

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Old 08-28-2008, 11:27 AM   #316
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EA is repsonsible for Madden and put out a buggy game. Ian works for EA plan and simple. Ian isn't fixing the game on his own time, he isn't paying his team out of his own pocket. EA is fixing the broken game they released, not Ian and EA should not be thanked for fixing a game they released broken.

The only thing Ian should be thanked for is posting on these forums, answering questions and what not. On the other hand, praising him for doing his job seems a little bit out there.

Your reasoning is understandable. But have you ever had to come into a company (or job) and had to turn it around, because the "boss" before you screwed it up so bad. Although that's your job, and that's what you were hired to do, it isn't a fun thing to do.

Ian does deserve some thanks here for trying to turn Madden around into more of a game where the community is involved in it's development. Not just a game where the developers call all the shots on what "they" want to be included in next years game. He is getting feedback from us, on what we want, and he has to be comended for that.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:49 PM   #317
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This is where the second group are the guys that are in the wrong here. Ian was not on the 2009 team, he was not responsible for the problems that exist, but he IS fixing them. Why should he NOT be thanked for fixing something that wasn't his fault in the first place?

If Ian is guilty of anything, it's putting faith in folks who hadn't earned it.
I agree 100%.

Look, now that the game is out, EA doesn't have to fix a thing if it doesn't want to. But Ian and the team are. That tells you that, despite what some may think, he is committed to creating a quality product.

And let the record show, I haven't had a single freeze or crash, and may not have realized it is as "big" an issue as it is.
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:30 PM   #318
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Awesome, this year is going to be the year Madden gains it's respect back. You guys are right on a lot of issues and fixing them already. Any idea when the 53 man roster update will be out?

Also, a question. I was playing a friend online and we were in private chat. I used the direct snap glitch on him for one play to see his reaction (quite funny btw) and have never used it again online. Will my entire record be erased because of this? The guy I played against was Republican18 and I have more games against him so he's just not some random quick match guy I cheated or something.

Good stuff.
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Old 08-28-2008, 02:46 PM   #319
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EA is repsonsible for Madden and put out a buggy game. Ian works for EA plan and simple. Ian isn't fixing the game on his own time, he isn't paying his team out of his own pocket. EA is fixing the broken game they released, not Ian and EA should not be thanked for fixing a game they released broken.

The only thing Ian should be thanked for is posting on these forums, answering questions and what not. On the other hand, praising him for doing his job seems a little bit out there.
My friend why are you so bitter! Either way the fix is there. Every company releases patches for things that were right before release.

I don't see why they should banged on, as if they are the only company that does it.

Fact is its getting fixed. Please just be happy!

Smile, nothing on this list made the game unplayable, but it did show errors in the system. Either way I hope it just improves what is already good. And what was wrong as well.

Thanks IAN and who ever else helped with the fixes.
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This is exciting news as it marks the first time EA Sports has patched their products (and console versions too which I knew was possible) with game-balancing/realism changes...even if it IS coming years later than it should have. It's still a win for EA Sports customers.

If this s a sign of things to come, NHL'ers (myself included) may finally see the day where online hockey will not be some mysterious sport no one has ever heard of. However, Madden IS their #1 product so I still have my doubts if NHL will see the same attention. The way I see it, $60 is $60. Time will tell.
This is not the first time ea has patched madden or other ea sports titles but hopefully next year we will get a better madden out of the box.
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