Two Weeks of Madden 09, and Official Patch News!

[Zackdawg]

Quote: Originally Posted by brendanrfoley

I'm sorry, but that isn't right. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to play or buy Madden '09. And, I think some need to stop acting like they personally "deserve" something. It's repulsive.

I agree that game-tuning, robo-qbing and other game issues may be of personal taste and more of a problem for the gamer here than the casual gamer. However, the basic stability issues for Madden, in-game and out of game, in franchise and out-of-franchise, seem to be fairly significant and would matter to hard-core sim and casual gamers. And these issues would be obvious with even modest testing before release (remember, this isn't a PC game, they have standard hardware setups).

Customers may not "deserve" an end to robo-qbing, but I do think that it is assumed that a game purchased for a game console will actually perform in a stable manner right out of the box, not a few weeks after purchase. I don't think it is "repulsive" that gamers, at minimum expect a stable game out of the box that doesn't give their 360 three flashing red lights. While $60 isn't the end of the world, it isn't a donation to EA as well -- they are purchasing a product.

[nookiebear]

I love this new version of Madden, but I personally agree with the people on here who say that EA shouldn't be releasing a game with so many problems. And I think it's unfair that others on here are having a go at them for voicing their concerns

Madden fans ARE obsessive about it. We know everything about NFL and how the previous versions have played (and how good the PS2 version is) so we have high standards - and rightly so

So releasing a game with such bad Robo QB (that can only really be solved by using two controllers, I'm finding), players running out of bounds, ghost wide receivers, and regular freezing is pretty damn shoddy, IMHO

This isn't glitches, this is surely basic stuff. how long have EA been making these games?

But they know they can get away with it because we all want a decent NFL game.

Yes, someone will quote me and say 'you don't have to buy it' and they're right, but I have done, so I'm allowed a moan

It's great that the fella from EA is on here telling us about a patch - but I think people need to stop telling him how wonderful he is because the fact is his product has been released faulty. If you haven't got online access, and your game keeps crashing, you're going to be up a certain creek without a paddle, aren't you?

Would you buy a car with so many basic faults?

next they'll be release FIFA and they'd have forgotten the offside rule or something as daft.


I'm probably typing this because I have the hump

I've just been playing the best game I've had so far on this new version

Redskins (me) 6 vs Ravens 13

36 seconds left in the 4th quarter. I'm at the Ravens 7yrd line

Great, realistic stats, exciting defensive battle, Robo has finally gone, thanks to the dummy profile stuff (Thanks EA, I had to spend another 20 quid to make the game playable)

AND THE GAME ••••••• FREEZES ON ME

What's more, When did Santana Moss pass away? Because he's now a ghost, because one pass went through his chest - literally straight through it. It was on third down as well. How basic is that?

I think my head might rotate 360 if it freezes on me during a franchise. I can't be bothered starting one of those at the moment because of all the talk of freezing

Thanks EA for the patch, it is much appreciated

But I don't like the applause people are giving EA on here - frankly, it's the least they can do

[sois]

People buy the game regardless of quality. There is no alternative for people who want NFL football. There are suckers like me who buy this every year for their NFL fix. Of course I want a game with better features. Even if every OS gamer boycott's Madden, millions of others purchase and enjoy the game blindly.

This argument is futile. If you bought the game, you should be thankful they are throwing us a bone. There is ZERO incentive for them to correct anything, and yet they did.

[nookiebear]

Quote: Originally Posted by sois

People buy the game regardless of quality. There is no alternative for people who want NFL football. There are suckers like me who buy this every year for their NFL fix. Of course I want a game with better features. Even if every OS gamer boycott's Madden, millions of others purchase and enjoy the game blindly. This argument is futile. If you bought the game, you should be thankful they are throwing us a bone. There is ZERO incentive for them to correct anything, and yet they did.

Not sure I agree

This is the first Next Gen version I've bought because the previous ones were so poor IMHO

If the same problems exist next year, I won't buy it

The insentive, surely, is having happy customers? If they kept releasing poor games that crashed, etc, eventually people would stop buying it

[sois]

Quote: Originally Posted by nookiebear

Not sure I agree This is the first Next Gen version I've bought because the previous ones were so poor IMHO If the same problems exist next year, I won't buy it The insentive, surely, is having happy customers? If they kept releasing poor games that crashed, etc, eventually people would stop buying it

You fail to see that EA HAS happy customers. I would say 95% of the purchasers of this game are happy with it. The only ones who complain are the ones who expect more. We are lucky to have the ear of the head of development.

They could release the same exact game every year, broken or not, for the next 10 years and they would still make millions.

PS: I hate the car analogy people keep bringing up. The car is Madden. We have no other "car dealerships". If your only possible mode of "transportation" (football video game) suddenly got an unexpected upgrade (patches), you should be thankful.

[bukeyez]

Quote: Originally Posted by skatepro56

i don't really feel like skimming through all the pages, but will this patch fix the freezing? i appreciate the progression fix, i'm very thrilled about that, but....is there really a point unless you can continue your franchise? the progression is AMAZING..but if your chise doesn't advance more than 2-3 years, i don't really see much of a point. again, i appreciate the work to make the game better, but i think the freezing is this games biggest issue, so i hope a fix is part of the patch

I, too, would like to know if the 2nd patch will fix Franhcise mode so it lives up to it's past and allows us to play multiple seasons (10+) without FREEZING. If this has been addressed, I apologize. But it would not hurt for someone to answer our questions concerning Franchise freezing. I am tired of scrolling through threads looking for info and finding nothing but opinions, bickering, complaining and crap talking. I am not a gossip queen and I look to this site for useful information or positive feedback. It seems no matter what, the threads always get off topic. Now, I know it has been stated that FREEZING issues will be addressed in the 2nd patch, BUT there have been multiple kinds of FREEZING issues in the game. SO, I would like to see if I can get it clarified- Will the Franchise FREEZING issue be fixed? Like the post above, I am excited about the Progression being adjusted but it will only matter if you can play multiple seasons! Thank you in advance for your intelligent answers.

[mwjr]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFuture15

I’ll state again that there’s no promise that this goes through, but we have nearly every one of these features actually ‘done’ internally, so now we have to figure out how to get Microsoft and Sony to allow us to release them.

How does that work? Why wouldn't MS and Sony allow you to release them?

[xV3L0CiTY]

Quote: Originally Posted by mwjr

How does that work? Why wouldn't MS and Sony allow you to release them?

Personally...I think they say that just to "cover their ***". God for bid something would happen that wouldn't allow DLC.