Madden 09 Roster & Patch Update

[CS10029]

Quote: Originally Posted by ofdman

Fair?... FAIR?! What the...? FAIR? Why is this "Fair" to you? Why would this be considered "fair" to anyone? Is there something I am missing here? Is this SUPPOSED to be how it is? Is there some kind of negotiating going on with gamers and developers about how glitches/problems are to be addressed or fixed with a patch? I am very happy that EA is doing this. I am but I don't understand the "fair" part of your statement. They have had 20 years to make a realistic game of football so why were these problems not fixed before release? I fully understand the new consoles but they have had a YEAR at minimum with this engine to get these things fixed before release. I am convinced they don't have beta testers. Or ANY testers. Or, they just don't listen. I found a **** LOAD of problems my first game (this is after a few FREEZES that I had BEFORE I could even GET through a complete game!) so screw this "fair" business. And why are you thanking Phil? Or anyone for that matter. Don't be a kiss *** dude. It's embarrassing. They are making a killing off of us suckers who purchase their games so they should be thanking YOU! I mean NO OFFENSE to you man. None at all. I am sure you're a nice guy but it just irks me to no end when I see posts like yours. EA knows EXACTLY what they are doing and I would not be the LEAST bit surprised if this whole patch thing was planned WAY in advance to make it LOOK as though they are HARD AT WORK TO MAKE US HAPPY! Yeah right. One step forwards and two steps back for Madden. Every single year. Having said that, I have heard that the Wii version actually has PENALTIES!! (imagine that) and plays a pretty good game of football (at least better than 360/PS3) so I am going to give that version a go and see what happens. And yes, I am aware of the irony here EA isn't all bad. So far Head Coach is pretty damn impressive and I am LOVING it! They also publish some pretty awesome titles (publish-not develop) Why can't they get Madden right? You'd think after 20 years we would have a MUCH better representation of the game of football but IMO we are still a long way off which is truly a shame. Competition breeds quality. True story. And with that I am off to Gamestop to give EA more of my money for I am indeed one of the millions of fools we have here on this fine planet.

You obviously don't have slightest clue on how video games are developed. I'm not gonna make is seem like I do, but I at least understand how long it takes to get these things done. Not to mention how long it takes to go through Microsoft and Sony.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, your getting a little worked up about absolutely nothing. He is being nice to the EA guy because he has no obligation to come to this board and post anything. Yet he is and it goes a long way to keeping us informed and in touch with the inner workings of the game.

[bull]

Quote: Originally Posted by CS10029

You obviously don't have slightest clue on how video games are developed. I'm not gonna make is seem like I do, but I at least understand how long it takes to get these things done. Not to mention how long it takes to go through Microsoft and Sony. Unfortunately, in my opinion, your getting a little worked up about absolutely nothing. He is being nice to the EA guy because he has no obligation to come to this board and post anything. Yet he is and it goes a long way to keeping us informed and in touch with the inner workings of the game.

Not only that, but they have no obligation to put a patch out. That's why its fair. I don't dispute the fact that the game shouldn't need a patch, but that has been the reality since video games began. Be thankful they are even willing to do it.

[Simonnova]

I TOTALLY agree!

C'mon EA FIX THESE ISSUES NOW!
NO EXCUSE for a released and flawed game.

Pauses and crashes tells us BUYERS that you guys over at EA DO NOT work hard enough to produce a quality game (Madden 09), and thats a SHAME!

am I saying that the developers of this game are lacking?....YES I AM!
Im not complaining about certain features that I would like, IM MAKING A CONSUMER COMPLAINT ABOUT A DEFECTED ITEM (i cant speak for all of us, but MANY have mentioned the issue of crashes and such).

Dont get me wrong, the overall game is great. But how can I enjoy a great game if it crashes. I bought a NEW PS3 a month ago, and this is the 1st game to cause problems!

I know you guys are working on a 2nd patch....just PLEASE include something that will resolve crashes!

1st, 2nd, heck maybe even a 3rd patch...THERE SHOULD BE NO PATCH! NOT EVEN ONE! WORK HARDER!

You made a graphically superior game, but....FINISH THE JOB BEFORE YOU HAVE US DISH OUT +/-$60....NO CRASHES, NO GLITCHES, NO PATCHES (only roster updates and such).

Ive been playing Madden on NES, then PSOne, then PS2, and NO COMPLAINTS EVER! Heck I thought 08 was GREAT on PS2.
Then I upgrade to a PS3 and play/try to play (only if it doesnt crash) a flawed Madden game!

LAZY?.....seems so.

Im not trying to be personal...Im just a MAD COMSUMER

[Moegames]

Quote: Originally Posted by Quint75

Nice job, Microsoft. It's perfectly acceptable that we should have to wait a week longer than PS3 owners.

Be fair man.. 360 owners usually get patches and upates well before ps3 owners. Honestly thats how it usually is.. and even though i dont have a ps3..i always sorta felt bad for the ps3 owners..let them get a piece of the pie first for once.

[RumbleCard]

Quote: Originally Posted by qaldyar

I bought Madden on Wednesday, went on xbox live and can't find a roster update. Am I doing something wrong?

go online and start a ranked game. It will prompts you to load the roster update. Then backout of the game and you're set.

[Whaaaazuuuuup]

i just hope the patch fixes the qb acc. and linemen engagements. this game is pretty solid from there...

[mikejones76]

Question, Have any of you ever bought a game that was perfect? I do agree that there are issues,but this game is still worth my $60. I remember a time when we didn't have roster updates and patches,but this is a very good game. I do agree that if there was competition these things would not be an issue,but have you played some of the horrible non Madden football games. 2k was the only real comp. I have been reading the boards and though some of the complaints are valid a lot of us just need to find a hobby and take madden for what is is,"a video game".They must be doing something right,every year these same people are driving 2 or 3 hours just to get it 2 days early....sigh!

[ofdman]

Quote: Originally Posted by CS10029

You obviously don't have slightest clue on how video games are developed. I'm not gonna make is seem like I do, but I at least understand how long it takes to get these things done. Not to mention how long it takes to go through Microsoft and Sony. Unfortunately, in my opinion, your getting a little worked up about absolutely nothing. He is being nice to the EA guy because he has no obligation to come to this board and post anything. Yet he is and it goes a long way to keeping us informed and in touch with the inner workings of the game.

Thats true. I understand about the whole approval process and all but you get my point. And I'm not THAT worked up. But tell me this, why then did the folks over at 2K get it done a lot better than EA in a lot less time? Explain that. That logic just doesn't compute.

And yes I know he was being nice to the EA guy but this whole "keeping us informed" is goofy to begin with. IMO, there shouldn't be a need to after 20 years of development. Again, 2K's developers did a hell of a job on their first football game. As I understand it there were some developers from the EA team that worked on it? Still, same logic applies right?

You're doing the same thing so many other people do and thats make excuses for EA. You may be what they call an enabler. You are lying to yourself if you believe that a lot of what EA does with Madden isn't done on purpose. I mean, it's their business plan. If one of the developers came in one day and said "EUREKA! I HAVE DISCOVERED THE PERFECT CODE FOR THE PERFECT GAME OF FOOTBALL!!" do you think the suits at EA would implement it? No friggin' way! LOL! They would slowly add parts of it over the coarse of a lifetime and at the same time purposefully break other parts of the game (that were fine to begin with) just so they can claim "We listen to our customers and are working hard to blah blah blah..." They do this EVERY YEAR! One year we have a realistic amount of penalties, the next year WE DON'T! One year we have pretty good presentation, the next year WE DON'T ( and don't give me the "NEXT GEN" excuse) this is so obviously done to make us sheep (and I am indeed a part of the herd) believe that they are trying their damnedest to bring us a realistic game of football when in fact, it's "all...part of the plaaaan".


No big deal. I am actually laughing so don't get all worked up. And we still have NFL HC which I like. And hopefully the Wii version is indeed a better game realitically speaking than its next gen version and i'll be content. And with EA, that is the whole goal with them. Make them content juuuuust enough to bring them back for more the next year.

Ain't that right EA?!

I am just as much a part of the problem as everyone else that buys into their hype machine so it's not like i'm bashing anyone other than EA. And it's America dammit! I am allowed to gripe about them!