NCAA Designers Step Up to the Plate

[GoVols1985]

Quote: Originally Posted by malek05

Actually, out of the three ncaa forums i visit, this is easily the one that kisses the EA dev's *** the most... Not even close At ncaa strategies,for example, if someone says something negative about ea or the dev's...nobody really cares. A few people might pile on...but nobody really steps in and says "that is not being constructive, that is not being conducive, these guys work hard and deserve a break". Because nothing they say is a lie... And eventually, people just stop talking about it, and the thread gets back on course. Don't really even see to many EA sucks threads over there. I think people post them here just because they know it will get a reaction out of someone. This is the only place that I see the dev's keep posting at...I wonder why? At any rate, all threads here crash and burn into the same thing... 1. Guy 1 says "Oh my god this is fubared. EA is dumb...blah blah blah... 2. Guy 2 says "It may be broken but it is still fun...blah blah blah 3. Guy 1 says "What do you mean it is fun? How can it be fun AND broken?" 4. Guy 2 panics here and doesn't know what to do. Begins to talk about how guy 1 is being disrespectful and doesn't understand how hard it is to make a game. 5. Guy 1 could give a flying **** about what it takes to make a game. He sites other sim games that come out every year (fifa, nhl, nba2k) that are just fine, so why not ncaa? 6. Guy 4, 5, 6, jump in to defend guy 1 7. Guy, 7,8, 9, jump in to defend guy 2 8. As some point one of the dev's says something completey pointless. Like, if 12 people post about how the cpu makes 50 yard field goals with ease, a dev will pop up and say "I just had the cpu miss a 40 yarder against me last night." Everybody thinks...wtf...but doesn't say anything. 9. Rinse and repeat for 20 pages...and the thread is locked. The games got some major issues...they need patching...by a company...who released a patch that made the game literally not boot...the DEV guys are just giving you spin...people need to stop complaining because it is not going to spur EA to move any faster...people need to stop defending EA because they released a game that is broken everywhere...realism...sliders...rosters...online dynasty...that pretty much covers the entire game... Get over it...this isn't the first time EA duped you out of 60 bucks (NCAA 07 anyone?) and it won't be the last time they dupe you out of 60 bucks (Madden 09 anyone?) Five stars for this powerful post *****

man, it must've taken you forever to write that. I've written term papers that weren't that long lol, but you really did hit the nail on the head. That's pretty much how the pattern seems to work around here. I'm guilty of falling into it a time or two myself.

[Security Device]

You people are funny. I'm just waiting patiently for the patch and in the meantime enjoying the parts of the game that do work properly. I'm in no hurry. I have a life outside of video games, so I can find other things to occupy my time. But when this patch does drop, lookout, I'm gonna tear it up.

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ralnakor

I'm reading all this negative feedback, claiming we're kissing EA's *** and really wondering about certain things. The first and foremost statement I must point out is that nowhere in this article was it said that I thought the game was great. My thoughts on the game itself are completely separate of this article to the point that I still have yet to weigh in on the issue. Beyond that, a simple reading of the article shows I never said the patching of the game and the like have been great. To those who argue I felt we should be happy Adam is posting on the boards, we really should be. They don't have to take the time to respond to us. Regardless of what many would argue EA's motives may be behind their presence on the OS forums, they are still doing more than they have to. Objectivity doesn't necessarily mean agreeing with a certain opinion. Sure, some of you may think he's done a horrible job, and some would say he's done a flawless job. I merely proposed that my personal opinion is that he's done a good job staying active and at least making an attempt to respond to criticisms about bugs in the game. Given how much people could do little more than rip on him for what you may or may not think is the best game EA Sports could have released, he has in fact not given in to complaints and hasn't merely written off the fans of the game as not worth his time. No matter whether you agree or disagree with the quality of the game and the reviews we've posted on the site, we mustn't forget that Adam doesn't still have to be here.

Once again, he is getting free market research, free game testing and building "good will" by being in here. There could be alot of motives why he's here. But the main reason would be to promote future sales of the game. For all I know tthe brass at EA could be telling him to pander to the sports websites.

If a salesman sold you a lemon of a car which you couldn't get your money back for then the company that manufactured had a representative call you, wouldn't you give him a piece of your mind.

If a representative didn't call you and you had this POS lemon car with alot of faults wouldn't you spread the word to your friends and others what was wrong with the car, what it would take to make it right?

Bottom line, its cool that he seems to care, but I just want the game fixed. Whether he posts on here or not, just fix it. You got my money. You'll get it next year if you fix this. If not you won't. And EA may not care, but I'll be damned if I'm going to bow down and be greatful because someone comes in and talks to me after I've spent my money on a product that has broken features. And I played the demo, and they broke the Kick off coverage since then, so as a consumer, the demo misrepresented the game. So at minimum they "owe" me to fix that because it was misrepresented.

[Security Device]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

Once again, he is getting free market research, free game testing and building "good will" by being in here. There could be alot of motives why he's here. But the main reason would be to promote future sales of the game. For all I know tthe brass at EA could be telling him to pander to the sports websites. If a salesman sold you a lemon of a car which you couldn't get your money back for then the company that manufactured had a representative call you, wouldn't you give him a piece of your mind. If a representative didn't call you and you had this POS lemon car with alot of faults wouldn't you spread the word to your friends and others what was wrong with the car, what it would take to make it right? Bottom line, its cool that he seems to care, but I just want the game fixed. Whether he posts on here or not, just fix it. You got my money. You'll get it next year if you fix this. If not you won't. And EA may not care, but I'll be damned if I'm going to bow down and be greatful because someone comes in and talks to me after I've spent my money on a product that has broken features. And I played the demo, and they broke the Kick off coverage since then, so as a consumer, the demo misrepresented the game. So at minimum they "owe" me to fix that because it was misrepresented.

If you buy a car for $60, it will be a Lemon. Irrelevant comparison.
And Kickoff coverage isn't broken. I've never had a kickoff returned on me in 09 playing the CPU or Online. An no, I don't play on weak difficulties. Try staying in your lanes and break down before you tackle. Don't complain about the new features if you can't figure out the minor adjustments that they made.

[malek05]

Quote: Originally Posted by Security Device

You people are funny. I'm just waiting patiently for the patch and in the meantime enjoying the parts of the game that do work properly. I'm in no hurry. I have a life outside of video games, so I can find other things to occupy my time. But when this patch does drop, lookout, I'm gonna tear it up.

I've got this '86 Cadillac, but only "parts" of it work...

Would you be willing to buy it from me for the full price of the car...instead of the parts...say...$13,000?

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by Security Device

If you buy a car for $60, it will be a Lemon. Irrelevant comparison. And Kickoff coverage isn't broken. I've never had a kickoff returned on me in 09 playing the CPU or Online. An no, I don't play on weak difficulties. Try staying in your lanes and break down before you tackle. Don't complain about the new features if you can't figure out the minor adjustments that they made.

Apparantly there is more than 1 EA representative "stepping up to the plate". Kick-off coverage isn't broken? Punt coverage isn't broken? you have already lost all credibility. Next thing you'll be telling me the sliders work.

Apparantly you don't understand comparative reasoning. It doesn't matter how much I paid for a new product $5 or $500,000 if the thing has flaws, they need to be fixed. Until its fixed, I'll air my grievances and point the flaws out to others so they can make informed decisions.

[Security Device]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

Apparantly there is more than 1 EA representative "stepping up to the plate". Kick-off coverage isn't broken? Punt coverage isn't broken? you have already lost all credibility. Next thing you'll be telling me the sliders work. Apparantly you don't understand comparative reasoning. It doesn't matter how much I paid for a new product $5 or $500,000 if the thing has flaws, they need to be fixed. Until its fixed, I'll air my grievances and point the flaws out to others so they can make informed decisions.

Saying they're broken isn't explaining why they're broken. Please explain yourself. Next time I play, I'll be more open to see what you're talking about. For someone to make a truly informed decision, they should be presented with the Pros & Cons, not just one side.

And no, the Sliders don't work. I never argued that point.

Are you saying you would rather have a percentage of your money back and be stuck with a broken game ?? Or would you like those resources spent on a crew focused on fixing those issues ??

[Security Device]

Quote: Originally Posted by malek05

I've got this '86 Cadillac, but only "parts" of it work... Would you be willing to buy it from me for the full price of the car...instead of the parts...say...$13,000?

Nope, not if you tell me the whole thing doesn't work before I buy it. Don't you think if EA knew all of this before the game came out, they might not have released it ?? Not to mention that this must have slipped past M$ and Sony. EA isn't the only company at fault here. Majority, yes. All, not quite. I would assume there was people put in place to detect these issues before the game came out. Since they didn't, I am lead to believe that there is also people put in place to fix after ship issues.

All I'm saying is have patience. These problems probably weren't created overnight. Can we really expect em to be fixed overnight ??

And no, I'm not an "EA Rep stepping up to the plate." I'm just not as pessimistic as most others.