Formation Subs: Yay or Nay?

[Russell_SCEA]

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Just for accuracy, Mr. McCombs, there was a Wild Hog formation for Arkansas but you couldn't seamlessly put McFadden in at QB.

Yes you could all you had to do was hit the sub button from the play call screen.

[janglar]

I'm all for the formation subs. If last gen could do it, why can't current gen?

[Scott]

All I want to be able to change is my KO Return, KO team and the holder...

[ac11367]

I'm all for formation sub as long as the defense is correctly notified of the package. For example, if some cheeser wants to sub a WR for a TE on a pro set, the defense should be presented with a notification of 2 RB, 3 WR, not 2 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by ac11367

I'm all for formation sub as long as the defense is correctly notified of the package. For example, if some cheeser wants to sub a WR for a TE on a pro set, the defense should be presented with a notification of 2 RB, 3 WR, not 2 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR.

Formation subs, when implemented, should still NOT allow those kinds of BS subs. Or if EA decides to allow it, the players should take a ratings hit that is significant.

[FredoXV]

Quote: Originally Posted by FatJoe399

Just for accuracy, Mr. McCombs, there was a Wild Hog formation for Arkansas but you couldn't seamlessly put McFadden in at QB.

You sir, are correct, although it is called the Wildcat.

Although you can seamlessly place McFadden in the QB slot with package called HB QB Sub.

Apologies on this factual error.

[ac11367]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

Formation subs, when implemented, should still NOT allow those kinds of BS subs. Or if EA decides to allow it, the players should take a ratings hit that is significant.

I don't think a ratings hit is warranted. If I'm notified of the correct offensive package, I'll have enough to make an informed decision about what defensive personnel/defensive play to put out there. If they decide to sub a WR in place of a QB, I'll definitely needed to be informed.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by ac11367

I don't think a ratings hit is warranted. If I'm notified of the correct offensive package, I'll have enough to make an informed decision about what defensive personnel/defensive play to put out there. If they decide to sub a WR in place of a QB, I'll definitely needed to be informed.

For each situational sub though there are aspects that need to reflect in the game accurately and right now for the most part does not. For example, the WR to QB sub. In the game there is really no risk of anything negative happening. In real life why don't teams do this all that often? Because WR's aren't used to taking snaps and there is a real high chance of a fumble on the exchange no matter if the guy is under center or in shotgun. You really can NOT allow subs of this nature until the game accurately models both the negative as well as the positive. Right now it's all positives and it's highly unrealistic.