Madden 09: Tackling Engine Blog & Video

[yamabushi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Briankingsfan

I've had an Epiphany! The guys do watch game film when programming the D. It's Bengals game film! That's why nobodys in postion and you can run around all day and your RB can burst for 75 yards. They watched us last year in Cleveland and said "that's Football!!!!!!!!"

As much as your joking, your also right on.

[discostu1524]

The Simpsons. The announcer guy at the baseball game from the episode where Marge starts her own pretzel business and gives free pretzels away. I hope I'm the first. I didn't read past this post yet. Woooooo! Video looked good too by the by. No suction blocking and tackling would be very nice.

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by yamabushi

As much as your joking, your also right on.

Now all they've gotta do is mo-cap Chad arguing with Marvin and add suspensions, holdouts and a cutscene of a courtroom and I'll feel the "authenticity" to the Nth degree! Who-Dey! Maybe I'll trade for Pacman to add some more fun!

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vadiplomat04

Ok....so you said that it takes two defenders to take a RB down...so what is the issue with the game if the do have 2+ defenders in the game.

My issue is that it's rare in the game. What I saw most of the time was the 2nd defender "exploding". The 2nd defender rarely engages in the tackle. So that's one wasted defender on the ground when in actuality, he had an advantage over the ball carrier because he was wrapped up. When that tackle is broken, and you know you had a 2nd defender there that should have finished things off, it can get frustrating.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vadiplomat04

And if you played 08' you do have control of the second (clean up) defender. I have had many hit stick tackles were the defender would stand up the defender then I would come and hit stick the ball carrier. The thing that need to be worked on is the AI of the CPU defeners adding on to the ball carrier

I don't use the hit stick and I found that though I had control of the 2nd defender, he would rarely engage in the tackle like I commanded. But it's the CPU defenders I'm really talking about. Most of the time I'm the 1st tackler in since I control the closest defender to the ball. My CPU help ends up on the ground or watching. I think we agree, no?

[yamabushi]

Quote: Originally Posted by Briankingsfan

Now all they've gotta do is mo-cap Chad arguing with Marvin and add suspensions, holdouts and a cutscene of a courtroom and I'll feel the "authenticity" to the Nth degree! Who-Dey! Maybe I'll trade for Pacman to add some more fun!

Tiburon really wanted too add 'coach arguing' this year but there wasnt time with all the cars, and light poles that had to be modeled for the stadium exterior shots

[Vadiplomat04]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

My issue is that it's rare in the game. What I saw most of the time was the 2nd defender "exploding". The 2nd defender rarely engages in the tackle. So that's one wasted defender on the ground when in actuality, he had an advantage over the ball carrier because he was wrapped up. When that tackle is broken, and you know you had a 2nd defender there that should have finished things off, it can get frustrating. I don't use the hit stick and I found that though I had control of the 2nd defender, he would rarely engage in the tackle like I commanded. But it's the CPU defenders I'm really talking about. Most of the time I'm the 1st tackler in since I control the closest defender to the ball. My CPU help ends up on the ground or watching. I think we agree, no?

The blog also states it has elimated the "exploding" players issue...so that might be something that could help sovle the 2nd defender issue.

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by yamabushi

Tiburon really wanted too add 'coach arguing' this year but there wasnt time with all the cars, and light poles that had to be modeled for the stadium exterior shots

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vadiplomat04

The blog also states it has elimated the "exploding" players issue...so that might be something that could help sovle the 2nd defender issue.

I'm hoping. But in the same vid, I saw an explosion on a sideline tackle. There's still time. If they're claiming to have solved the problem, maybe they plan on cleaning it up before release. But making a claim and not showing the proof in the vid is not encouraging. I expected to see a ton of multi-player tackles after reading the blog.