Madden 09: Tackling Engine Blog & Video

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by JRod

Here's my definition of a gang tackle. There are actually 3 guys making the tackle. I can't tell what the 4th guy is doing but he might be in on the tackle.

He's posing for the highlight. Probably a CB or FS. And being a Bengals fan, thats the ONLY way we can tackle. We don't have anyone "Hit Stick" worthy! It just doesn't happen enough. LOL But that is a true gang tackle.

[JRod]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vadiplomat04

As I said....two defenders have hold of him but once you get more then 2 or 3 there just tackleing each other.

Oh come on, you see swarm tackling and gang tackling all the time in the NFL. Where two guys tackle a guy and third comes in to stop momentum or finish him off. This never happens in madden.

At most two guys can be in on a tackle. But most of the time, in madden, the first guy has to break off a tackle so the 2nd and 3rd guys can start the tackle animation.

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vadiplomat04

As I said....two defenders have hold of him but once you get more then 2 or 3 there just tackleing each other.

Yeah, but to bring down Jamal you have to do that or he's getting that 3rd and short. Or the yard for the TD. And a Hit Stick tackle ain't gonna stop him,even going low. You'll end up like David Pollack......

[J-Unit40]

That was the best I have seen of Madden so far. I actually may think about buying it after hearing other OS impressions.

[SageInfinite]

Hate to bring 2k into the conversation but I think it relates well to the topic. As much some people hated the button tapping, I think it helped add realistic tackling. I think Madden needs something like this(actually Madden current gen had it a little bit).

The button tapping(struggling for yards), allowed time for defenders to come in and clean up the tackle. It also allowed time for users to break the tackle or either get tackled by that engaged defender. With Madden how it is now the you either get tackled or you break the tackle. So really to have a 2 man tackle both defenders have to have contact at the same time or really shortly after. With some sort of button tapping, it would really allow the user to have more control over the outcome on offense. On defense it would also help, as it would give time users to switch to another defender and clean up the hit and stop the ball carriers momentum.

I would have loved to see 2k expand this to 3 and 4 man tackling. Hopefully Madden can implement a system like this in the near future.

[JRod]

Quote: Originally Posted by Briankingsfan

He's posing for the highlight. Probably a CB or FS. And being a Bengals fan, thats the ONLY way we can tackle. We don't have anyone "Hit Stick" worthy! It just doesn't happen enough. LOL But that is a true gang tackle.

Ha! Ya his eyes are right at the camera.

[BrianFifaFan]

I've had an Epiphany! The guys do watch game film when programming the D. It's Bengals game film! That's why nobodys in postion and you can run around all day and your RB can burst for 75 yards. They watched us last year in Cleveland and said "that's Football!!!!!!!!"

[Vadiplomat04]

Quote: Originally Posted by JRod

Oh come on, you see swarm tackling and gang tackling all the time in the NFL. Where two guys tackle a guy and third comes in to stop momentum or finish him off. This never happens in madden. At most two guys can be in on a tackle. But most of the time, in madden, the first guy has to break off a tackle so the 2nd and 3rd guys can start the tackle animation.

There are gang tackles in Madden that involve three people. Im saying if you have more then 2 people talking one player, some players are going to either a) just pile on the back of the defender (like in your picture) or b) knock off their own defender. Now if you watch the video your notice that the player are more aware of tackles and react better the tackles. The video also shows that when a player gets hit into another player that reaction is more realistic. I don't know what you want from this game, but you can't say that EA isn't trying their hardest to improve on the engine.