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[Cebby]

Quote: Originally Posted by gamerk2

If BB has a franchise, I'm sure it will sell more than 250,000 copies...(sorry 2k, but that WAS dumb of you...)

No franchise had little to do with it.

The biggest reason for APF's lackluster support was the idiotic decision to release it the same day as NCAA. Anyone who's borderline is going to choose NCAA, and anyone who is buying NCAA probably isn't going to buy APF. Plus, any non-licensed sports game will struggle.

As for this, I'm going with the "I need to see gameplay" crowd.

[JRod]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Soldier

No franchise had little to do with it. The biggest reason for APF's lackluster support was the idiotic decision to release it the same day as NCAA. Anyone who's borderline is going to choose NCAA, and anyone who is buying NCAA probably isn't going to buy APF. Plus, any non-licensed sports game will struggle. As for this, I'm going with the "I need to see gameplay" crowd.

It wasn't just the release day that hurt the game. It was a series of errors.

-Lack of Franchise, customizable season mode would have been fine.
- Hamstrung editing options after promising more customization.
- Few features.

I think the selling date was inconsequential. They thought since people we going to the store for NCAA they might pick up APF. That was the thinking and it's something that's done to have games piggy-back on other hot selling games.

The game just wasn't very good outside the gameplay, in the end that was it's undoing.

If it was good, word of mouth would spread and the game would have sold in later weeks. But how can you recommend a game with so few features.

[muggins]

I doubt it'll sell more than APF. A non-licensed game from a developer who has never developed a football game before? Add to that a new non-standard camera angle?

We've seen what kind of problems games put out by EA and 2k have, and they've put out tons of them. I can't imagine at 59.99 this tech demo will sell much.

[yamabushi]

Id love to see another football option out there as much as the next guy, but........
Im firmly convinced that this is nothing but a sales pitch, to EA and others, about the game engine.

[Bigdmo9999]

People need to get over themselves and pick up this game. The game has been developed for over 2 years now, you think they are going to miss out on key features? These guys are Madden fans, I would doubt that they would leave out their favorite feature from that game such as franchise and whatever other gimmicks EA puts into that game. Honestly I wish people would stop calling this a tech demo. If it was there would be no game and EA 09 games would have the all new Euphoria engine

[Dudd]

Wow, 2 years, I'm sure APF was banged out in six months and that's why it didn't have franchise mode. Madden's been in development forever, that's why it's perfect, right? Until I see gameplay videos that go beyond a bunch of idiots diving wildly in a minigame, it's a nice physics engine that I hope can produce a solid game, nothing more.

[Bigdmo9999]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dudd

Wow, 2 years, I'm sure APF was banged out in six months and that's why it didn't have franchise mode. Madden's been in development forever, that's why it's perfect, right? Until I see gameplay videos that go beyond a bunch of idiots diving wildly in a minigame, it's a nice physics engine that I hope can produce a solid game, nothing more.

haha, you called Madden perfect

[myownsun]

The tackle animations look fantastic