Madden 09 Mondays Week 5: See All of the Action With the New Cam

[SteelerSpartan]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

You have a great idea IMO. Too bad EA will probably never come up with such a system.

or they'd mangle it into the hardest piece of crap to use

[Jukeman]

to comment about the "air blocking" this reminds me of a quote from that movie Gridiron Gangs................Both plays where pass plays so the olineman was doin wat he is suppose to be doing altho the animation could have been better but thats judging from a pic, it would have been nice to see him dbl team the Dlineman who was about to sack the QB but olineman has a role just like a WR do......like somebody said before if it was a RUN play then yea it wouyld be messed up

[ewto16]

Quote: Originally Posted by mvb34

Look like the X receiver ran a hook route on both play.

I'm sure he did, but when you complete your route, you don't stand there like a stick in the mud, so that you are easily covered. You should either keep coming back to the QB or adjust to get open.

Standing there like a dip-s*** doesn't accomplish anything.

[ewto16]

Quote: Originally Posted by starvsnr

"Since you can't see him, you're not quite sure if the corner is barreling down on him, if he fell down, or if you're completing a pass to the guy holding the down marker." I have never seen a player "fall down" due to EA never putting something like that in the game.

HAHAHAHA...that is the truth. Pretty hard to run into the chain gang that doesn't exist as well.

[spit_bubble]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

You have a great idea IMO. Too bad EA will probably never come up with such a system.

They might. The fact that they even have an action cam shows that they are trying to address the issue.

Quote: Originally Posted by SteelerSpartan

or they'd mangle it into the hardest piece of crap to use

The way I laid it out makes it as simple as possible, yet still retaining functionality... Especially with the added effect of looking off safeties.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by ColumbusKilled

Look at #'s 77 and 65 and you will know why this game is a no buy for a lot of us.

Ha!

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

I agree it looks silly that they are standing there like a couple of damned fools with their "big ol' paws" up in the air...but I disagree with the implication from a few of you that they are standing out of place or should be doing something. As a former lineman in high school myself we were told to play our position on pass plays and that means if you're a guard you're standing there basically doing nothing if no one is around. You're not supposed to run off somewhere else in search of blocking someone on pass plays, that's rushing plays where you do that.

I wasn't a lineman, but I played QB in highschool. It was my job to know blocking assignments better than anyone on the field. Our lineman were not taught to stand around on pass plays. They were taught that if no one showed, punch/help to their assigned side. If our RG's responsibility was head up to outside, he would help to the right if no one showed.

But they were also taught to keep their head on a swivel in case of a stunt. It was all timing, part of what gives a line cohesion & chemistry. A stunting DL would show in a second or so. Odds are, if you've taken your steps and no one shows, it's safe to help. There was never a time when our coaches wanted a lineman standing around ready to do nothing.

Looking at those photos, it's clear there's no one for either of those linemen to block. They should be helping. I don't see NFL lineman standing around. Even on 3-man rushes, everyone is hitting someone.

Now that I say all of that, maybe EA's double team blocking mechanic can't handle offensive linemen helping.



But the visuals sure are pretty. Whenever EA gets the gamplay & animations on that level, they'll have a gem on thier hands.

[ODogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Ha! I wasn't a lineman, but I played QB in highschool. It was my job to know blocking assignments better than anyone on the field. Our lineman were not taught to stand around on pass plays. They were taught that if no one showed, punch/help to their assigned side. If our RG's responsibility was head up to outside, he would help to the right if no one showed. But they were also taught to keep their head on a swivel in case of a stunt.

Well just to clarify what I meant, I didn't mean that the OL should just stand there and do absolutely nothing, as you say they should be looking on a swivel to assist if needed. My point was that in the pics they show, there really is not any defenders that I saw that the guys should be moving to pick up. It looks like they have the situation under control.

I do 100% agree Madden needs work in this area, just saying that a lot of people seem to berate certain things about the game that aren't perfect but aren't as flawed as they like to mock the game about.

[King Gro23]

no it is the NCAA QB campus legend camera they just said its new to madden