Fight Night Round 4 Announced, Mike Tyson Featured

[thelwig14]

Quick Tillis, Blood Green, Ribalta, Bonecrusher, Tucker, Holmes, Bruno, Buster, Holyfield, Botha, and Lennox. Rewatch these fights, closely, on mute, and then we can discuss matchups. But if you have any sense, objectivity, and knowledge of the game, we will agree on the possible outcomes of a 5'9 fighter against all the greats.

[stizz]

Small clip on IGN http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/869/869065p1.html.

[Money99]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sausage

This is sad; the small excitement (very small sadly) that Prizefighter created has just went down the toilet. Just by announcing Mike Tyson will be in the game. I really hope they use the prime version not the bald over the hill version with the tattoo on his face. I just can't for the life of me understand why they create the older and slower version of Holyfield either. Please give us Tyson, Holyfield, and other boxers in there prime.

Probably because Holyfield is still boxing.

And I hope they give us '88 Tyson as well. It'll be fun to recreate bouts against some of the other greats.

But as excited as I am about hearing Tyson will be in this game I hope the gameplay is much better than what was in Rd.3. That title shouldn't even call itself a boxing game.

[mr_president]

Quote: Originally Posted by metallicatz

I'm not sure Ali could've kept a full on Tyson bum rush at bay with his jab. When Tyson came on the scene he was a phenomenon even after a great 70's decade of heavyweight boxing. It'll always be one of those great era vs. era debates. I like Tyson's chances against anyone in history.

wow, you giive ali absolutely no credit....
his jab was one of the best in the game,his speed and power are 2nd to none.

mike tyson has never ever faced anyone of ali's caliber, but ali has faced a few tysons(foreman,frazier)
tysons 'BUMRUSH" only worked on bums.....you think holyfield picked him apart,ali would have humiliated the best version of tyson, just by floating on the ouside feeding him beautiful combinatios. a prime mike tyson was not smart enough or skilled enough to beat a prime ali.

it get's no smoother than this

[Money99]

Quote: Originally Posted by mr_president

wow, you giive ali absolutely no credit.... his jab was one of the best in the game,his speed and power are 2nd to none. mike tyson has never ever faced anyone of ali's caliber, but ali has faced a few tysons(foreman,frazier) tysons 'BUMRUSH" only worked on bums.....you think holyfield picked him apart,ali would have humiliated the best version of tyson, just by floating on the ouside feeding him beautiful combinatios. a prime mike tyson was not smart enough or skilled enough to beat a prime ali. it get's no smoother than this

First, Frasier and Foreman aren't even close to the same kind of fighter Tyson was. Neither of them had as much speed or power in both hands. Tyson could kill you with a left or right hand.

Also, a PRIME Ali was getting trounced by B+ fighter Henry Cooper. If not for Dundee's quick thinking Ali would have been KTFO.

Lastly, no matter how many Tyson-haters protest, there is a HUGE difference between Rooney-Tyson and Don King-Tyson. The guy Holyfield fought was a shadow of the Tyson that destroyed Spinks.

Nobody can say for sure if Tyson would have beaten Ali or vice-versa. But that little clip doesn't prove jack. That fighter was trying to land jabs from the outside. Tyson didn't throw jabs to necessarily hurt anyone, it was to prevent them from firing punches at him so he could get inside. If Ali did the same thing there to Tyson, Mike would have already been within inches of Ali firing 4-6 punches to his rib cage.
People forget how quick Tyson's feet were. And not in the sense that he was a dancer. It was more like Barry Sanders quickness. He'd jump in, out and side-to-side, giving him multipel angles to fire short uppercuts and hooks.
People always say Mike never faced anything like Ali, well Ali had never faced anything like a Prime Mike Tyson. Nobody else in history had his combination of speed, power, foot speed or tenacity. The man threw punches combinations like a welterweight but with heavyweight power.
And that's why people, young and old, are still grasping on to a fighter that hasn't been relevant or in his prime for 2 decades. If there was nothing special about Tyson or if he was THAT overrated, then why has he stayed so popular? And it's not because of all the garbage he did post jail. It was because what he did in the ring - style wise - had never been done by anyone in the history of the sport.

[mr_president]

Quote: Originally Posted by Money99

First, Frasier and Foreman aren't even close to the same kind of fighter Tyson was. Neither of them had as much speed or power in both hands. Tyson could kill you with a left or right hand. Also, a PRIME Ali was getting trounced by B+ fighter Henry Cooper. If not for Dundee's quick thinking Ali would have been KTFO. Lastly, no matter how many Tyson-haters protest, there is a HUGE difference between Rooney-Tyson and Don King-Tyson. The guy Holyfield fought was a shadow of the Tyson that destroyed Spinks. Nobody can say for sure if Tyson would have beaten Ali or vice-versa. But that little clip doesn't prove jack. That fighter was trying to land jabs from the outside. Tyson didn't throw jabs to necessarily hurt anyone, it was to prevent them from firing punches at him so he could get inside. If Ali did the same thing there to Tyson, Mike would have already been within inches of Ali firing 4-6 punches to his rib cage. People forget how quick Tyson's feet were. And not in the sense that he was a dancer. It was more like Barry Sanders quickness. He'd jump in, out and side-to-side, giving him multipel angles to fire short uppercuts and hooks. People always say Mike never faced anything like Ali, well Ali had never faced anything like a Prime Mike Tyson. Nobody else in history had his combination of speed, power, foot speed or tenacity. The man threw punches combinations like a welterweight but with heavyweight power. And that's why people, young and old, are still grasping on to a fighter that hasn't been relevant or in his prime for 2 decades. If there was nothing special about Tyson or if he was THAT overrated, then why has he stayed so popular? And it's not because of all the garbage he did post jail. It was because what he did in the ring - style wise - had never been done by anyone in the history of the sport.

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Tyson didn't throw jabs to necessarily hurt anyone, it was to prevent them from firing punches at him so he could get inside.

this would be one weakness against mike tyson in a fight with ali.

mike tyson had excellent hand speed, but no one in the heavyweight division has ever matched ali's speed, footwork and power.

mike tyson had decent footwork, but his balance has always been off, even with rooney he had terrible,terrible balance.
holyfield exposed tysons weaknesses. once he proved that tyson could not intimidate him(removing one of his weapons) he exploited tysons horrible balance, something that tony tucker was on to but didn't have the skill set or smarts to formulate a plan to capitalize and defeat mike.

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Lastly, no matter how many Tyson-haters protest, there is a HUGE difference between Rooney-Tyson and Don King-Tyson. The guy Holyfield fought was a shadow of the Tyson that destroyed Spinks.

you mean the overrated michael spinks who was handed a decision over larry holmes??? you mean the spinks that has beaten absolutely no one of any credit???(other than said gifts over larry holmes??)

you can't say tyson was a shell of himself and then use the spinks fight as a reference because spinks was past his prime(if he ha one) in that fight....as a matter of fact that was the last fight for spink's(can't get anymore past your prime than that)

prior to tysons fight with holyfield he fought 8 times 6 of witch were stopped early, no complaints from the fans, but as soon as he loses holyfield the excuses rolled in...and don't use the past his prime excuse because holyfield is 4 years older than tyson, and has been in the game just as long.....in the rematch wit hholyfield mike was defeated before he climbed into the ring just because he couldn't let go of his first defeat at the hands of holyfield.

there is nothing that mike tyson does better in the ring than ali, but you can't say the same thing about ali.


ali's speed,power,footwork, and ring savy would embarrass tyson, and tyson getting more and more frustrated as the fight goes on woud walk right into a sweet combo.


7 rounds.

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If there was nothing special about Tyson or if he was THAT overrated, then why has he stayed so popular?

he provided entertainment, he knocked people out and that's what fans wanted to see, and he did it frequently.

[jwolf02]

please please please "fix" aka redo the career mode.

[thelwig14]

I love the differentiation between a Rooney-Tyson and everything else using the crowning achievement of beating a retired light heavyweight who was simply getting a paycheck. Especially when the Rooney-Tyson had some really bad fights.

I agree with Money in that many, many people pretend the Cooper fight doesn't exist.

But regardless, Tyson was awesome and his bumrush technique and the speed and power of his combinations were amazing. But a 5'9 fighter can not be effective against ATG's because Tyson's style is and always will be easy to counter for an ATG.