Madden 09 Producer Blog: Play Call Changes: EA Sports

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by a4reak

I think your missing the point. EA has yet to give the typical EA blitz of information so I am not going to question gameplay additions until I get a full understanding of what if anything did they do.

I don't need to HEAR anything to know the gameplay additions I was looking for are not in the game. It's apparent in the vids. But I'm not sure why we're going there.

Quote: Originally Posted by a4reak

When we have yet to hear one line of commentary from Hammond n Collinsworth, I question how anyone can complain right now on the short comings (like you did in your first post) with the little to no info we have.

I am commenting on what's released and posted, just like everyone else in the thread. If what I've seen is improved by release, great. I will have something better to say then.

What I don't get is you having a problem with me expressing opinions when everyone's opinions are based on the same info. I can only guess it's because I'm not impressed. Just like I don't know what else will come, those people don't know if these features will work properly. But again, you don't have a problem with their comments this early in development.

[Harlemal]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

In my view there's a difference between in-game tv style replays/stat overlays and the user controlled replays/stats that we've traditionally had to pause the game to see. The former can be considered a part of presentation (if we accept that term to mean "recreating the feel of a tv broadcast"), while the latter is more properly considered a part of the overall user interface. The replays and stats on the playcalling screen will be of the more traditional "pause screen" variety, EA is just implementing a short cut. You are, of course, free to see things differently.

aint no use talkin to him. he been repeating the same sh!t. why r we talkin about gameplay when this thread about playcall changes. when we see the gameplay vid then we all make a decision on whats ritgh and whats wrong. but even still u wouldnt know until we play it. i understand everybody get upset because they want the best product and they should but sometimes yall take it overboard. either take it yo the 2k thread or make up one will yall can complain. THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT THE PLAY CALL SCREEN.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Again, great. If there are consistent stat overlays in the game, you could've simply corrected me. But the spin you try to put on my post is terrible.

There wasn't any spin put on your diatribe at all. I'm simply posting my honest opinions, as you are doing... right?

Again, all this from 4 minutes of pre-release video.

It will not be 2k football. Just like you felt last year, you should probably just stick with 2k football if that is what you are looking for.

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

I am commenting on what's released and posted, just like everyone else in the thread. If what I've seen is improved by release, great. I will have something better to say then.

Ugh. You're going in circles now.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by a4reak

So in the four plus minutes of gameplay vids, its been confirmed no stat overlays tv presentation style or replays? Sorry I missed that

I give it to you. You're trying. But I never said there were replays. There are obviously replays. My point was that stat presentation & replays are presentation elements of the game. EA is touting improved presentation. These are not the presentation improvements I was looking for.

Save that inaccurate sarcasm for someone else.

[yamabushi]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Field goal returns must have been put under a new category this season. Instead of gameplay, it must be considered by the public as presentation this year.

This just goes to my point, It was either a quick fix to a line of code allowing a missed FG to be ran back instead of treated as a miss, in which case, big deal, it’s a rare, non-essential element. Or, they spent time working on this 'back of the box bullet point' instead of something way more significant like blocking/O-line AI.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

In my view there's a difference between in-game tv style replays/stat overlays and the user controlled replays/stats that we've traditionally had to pause the game to see. The former can be considered a part of presentation (if we accept that term to mean "recreating the feel of a tv broadcast"), while the latter is more properly considered a part of the overall user interface.

Properly? OK.

When I watch a game on tv, a play happens, and if it's interesting, they show a replay. IMO, that replay is presentation. So when EA shows replays after the play, I consider it presentation.

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

The replays and stats on the playcalling screen will be of the more traditional "pause screen" variety, EA is just implementing a short cut.

I still believe replays & stats to be presentation elements, especially since EA is creating a way to see them without pausing the game.

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

You are, of course, free to see things differently.

Thank you.

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Harlemal

aint no use talkin to him. he been repeating the same sh!t. why r we talkin about gameplay when this thread about playcall changes. when we see the gameplay vid then we all make a decision on whats ritgh and whats wrong. but even still u wouldnt know until we play it. i understand everybody get upset because they want the best product and they should but sometimes yall take it overboard. either take it yo the 2k thread or make up one will yall can complain. THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT THE PLAY CALL SCREEN.

You too? 1st, I'm responding to posts responding to me. 2nd, I only mentioned gameplay in response to someone mentioning gameplay. I even said I don't know why we're going there. Lastly, I only mentioned 2K in response to someone mentioning 2K.

RIF

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by yamabushi

This just goes to my point, It was either a quick fix to a line of code allowing a missed FG to be ran back instead of treated as a miss, in which case, big deal, it’s a rare, non-essential element. Or, they spent time working on this 'back of the box bullet point' instead of something way more significant like blocking/O-line AI.

I'll be the optimist and say it's a feature in the NFL and now, finally, in the game, even though it maybe a small element in some peoples eyes.

As far as blocking/O-line A.I. too early to determine in my opinion. As one of the producers said about the 4 minute video, not everything is included in the video or bugs not worked out, yet.