Two New NCAA Football 09 Screenshots

[badnews]

Why can't they re-do their engine for next-gen? Other developers have, look at Infinity Ward, SCEA, Naughty Dog, Capcom, Rockstar, Unreal Engine, Visual Concepts. I'm sure EA is capable, but the reason they won't is cause they are arrogant, have all the licenses, and the casual gamer has no idea they are being hoodwinked and bamboozled.

[Oldschool17]

Next gen Sports to me never meant graphics..Graphics are a given.

When I think of next gen sports games I think of advanced physics such as NaturalMotion and Euphoria...When we see and feel those things with the graphics only then will we really be entering next gen. Thus far all next gen has meant to most sports games is a graphical upgrade.

[coogrfan]

Quote: Originally Posted by badnews

Why can't they re-do their engine for next-gen? Other developers have, look at Infinity Ward, SCEA, Naughty Dog, Capcom, Rockstar, Unreal Engine, Visual Concepts. I'm sure EA is capable, but the reason they won't is cause they are arrogant, have all the licenses, and the casual gamer has no idea they are being hoodwinked and bamboozled.

EA won't because they don't see any reason to. Reviews of the next gen version were generally favorable. Sales of the next-gen versions were up last year, while those of the last gen versions plummeted. Given all that, it isn't unreasonable for EA to conclude that they just need to improve what they have, not reinvent the wheel.

[Cardot]

I can't tell much of a difference. They look great now, but I thought they were great on '08.

But I am a bit bummed that it looks like they didn't improve the sideline players much. In '08, sidelines are borderline comical. In the neighborhood of Sega Genesis. I don't need interactive sidelines, but when they look as bad as they do in '08, it really decreases the immersion factor.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cardot

I can't tell much of a difference. They look great now, but I thought they were great on '08. But I am a bit bummed that it looks like they didn't improve the sideline players much. In '08, sidelines are borderline comical. In the neighborhood of Sega Genesis. I don't need interactive sidelines, but when they look as bad as they do in '08, it really decreases the immersion factor.

Sega Genesis? Naaaah. PS1 at the least.

[Keith121212]

Quote: Originally Posted by Spectre

I don't see a big difference Regardless, if the guys still look like robots when they move, the best player models won't make a difference. Atrocious player interaction and animations can nullify any gains with player models. It's like NBA Live- the models look alright when they're captured at a standstill but look absolutely horrid in motion.

I agree 100%. The game looked laughably bad in motion. Just terrible animation and interactions. This is where nearly every non-EA sports game has NCAA beat and its by a blowout.

[lasthour]

Yes, the game does look slightly and I mean slightly better every year.
Yes, EA still pictures are great.
The problem I see is with their animations (very limited),
Their gameplay (very arcadelike),
And old and bad code (suction blocking, runningback pinball, cheap AI, ect) from the last one or two generations.

I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that this is NOT a new engine. Maybe graphics engine, but I just don't see how the same problems EA has had for many many many years could possibly be the exact same problems with this gen.

You can comparre them to other game companies of you want and take up for them if you want, but if it looks like a duck, quack like a duck them it must be a duck.
And this is for Madden too. Shi.... it's the same engine.

[Keith121212]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

EA won't because they don't see any reason to. Reviews of the next gen version were generally favorable. Sales of the next-gen versions were up last year, while those of the last gen versions plummeted. Given all that, it isn't unreasonable for EA to conclude that they just need to improve what they have, not reinvent the wheel.

Are you sure about that? I thought sales of NCAA dropped across the board last year.