MLB '08: The Show Review

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slizeezyc

Plus there's so much else the online offers outside of the H2H play itself.

I made reference to this in my initial post. People are overlooking the other features available. It doesn't make sense to continue in a circular argument where some just don't get it.

Hell, you can even send in your feedback on what should be in the new roster updates. Unparalleled by any console sports game released to this day...

[Oldschool17]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxChamp

The more you drone on about this, the more credibility you lose, IMO. You've stated your thoughts. We've stated ours. Move on. Continuing to whine and complain about this review is not going to change the fact that you think online play sucks. For someone who doesn't care that much about reviews, you sure do care alot about this one. You've contradicted yourself in just about every post. Earlier, you told me to stop focusing on the 6.5 number, yet you can't stop focusing on the 9. The reviewer mentioned THREE TIMES that online play was lacking. Isn't that enough? Stop focusing on the NUMBER. Isn't that what you told me earlier? This entire thread is out of control and on the verge of a lockdown if we can't just agree to disagree and move on. You're turning this debate into a sideshow.

Clearly I'm not talking to myself so when you mention DRONE on...Include yourself in that as well.

[Oldschool17]

Quote: Originally Posted by djep

Is that in context enough for you? "A game that is obviously created with online vs. play being an added bonus should not be negated in a review for average online play." Online vs. play being an added bonus? Modes like RTTS are added bonuses. Online play has been standard in sports games for most of the past decade. "When was the last time we saw a sports game without sliders? Yet, how many times do we see a game released with customizable sliders that some don't usually have an effect?" FIFA, Winning Eleven, Tiger Woods, NASCAR, F1:CE, Top Spin 2....none of these have sliders. Yet, they still feature online versus play.

Thank you for understanding my point...Now we have 3 people that actually get where I'm going with this..I'm stilll waiting to hear someone score this game assuming that Franchise was unreliable or problematic. What does anyone think that score would be if Franchise was not reliable?...Would it still rate a 8 or 9?

[jim416]

Good lord.

[SoxChamp]

Quote: Originally Posted by Slizeezyc

Plus there's so much else the online offers outside of the H2H play itself.

He doesn't understand this. There is no use in continuing the discussion.

The one area that he personally enjoys is not up to par with the rest of this terrific game, so he feels the entire review should suffer. 6.5? Utterly asinine.

[Oldschool17]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxChamp

He doesn't understand this. There is no use in continuing the discussion. The one area that he personally enjoys is not up to par with the rest of this terrific game, so he feels the entire review should suffer. 6.5? Utterly asinine.

I never stated the game should be a 6.5...That was just an arbitrary number thrown out there as an example...If your gonna attempt to explain and/or discuss something I've commented p[lease be kind enough to get your facts straight...Thanks

[SoxChamp]

Quote: Originally Posted by Oldschool17

I never stated the game should be a 6.5...That was just an arbitrary number thrown out there as an example...If your gonna attempt to explain and/or discuss something I've commented p[lease be kind enough to get your facts straight...Thanks

Really? On Page 2, you said that without reliable online play, this game is a 6.5-7.0. Those are YOUR words. That's YOUR "review score". You can't tell me to forget your so-called "arbitrary" number of 6.5 when you can't stop focusing on the 9 it received from the review. We're talking strictly numbers here, right? Afterall, it was mentioned in the review THREE TIMES that online play was unreliable.

If you are going to continue to hammer home redundant point after redundant point, at least avoid being a hypocrite while doing so. Thanks.

This discussion is over with me. Happy gaming.

[Oldschool17]

Quote: Originally Posted by SoxChamp

Really? On Page 2, you said that without reliable online play, this game is a 6.5-7.0. Those are YOUR words. That's YOUR "review score". You can't tell me to forget your so-called "arbitrary" number of 6.5 when you can't stop focusing on the 9 it received from the review. We're talking strictly numbers here, right? Afterall, it was mentioned in the review THREE TIMES that online play was unreliable. If you are going to continue to hammer home redundant point after redundant point, at least avoid being a hypocrite while doing so. Thanks. This discussion is over with me. Happy gaming.

get your facts straight son..This is the exact quote

Quote:

This game w/reliable online play is a 9...maybe a 10..But w/o its closer to a 6.5 - 7.0...Laugh if you want but until the voices in the community ring loud and clear in a producers ear about the overall dissatisfaction gamers have with next gen online play there will be no changes for the foreseeable near future.

Again...the whole premise of my suggestion was to utilize arbitrary numbers to get the attention of game producers who routinely neglect portions of videogames that are extremely important to consumers in an effort to cause companies to be more thorough with all areas of all games...Not just Franchise and not just online.

Until a producer or game manufacturer comes on this forum and specifically sais that Franchise is more important than Online and/or vice versa I'll stand by my crazy notion that both are equally important to producers and gamers as a whole. Hell..show me any comment by EA, 2k or Sony concerning their sports titles where they negate the importance of ONLINE in favor of franchise and/or vice versa.

Poorly constructed REVIEWS and while I'm not saying the OS review was poor... I am suggesting it can be misleading as most reviews often focus on whats important to the reviewer and his personal taste as opposed to truly representing the community as a whole..If you can't understand or see that then your blind among other things. Happy gaming right back at ya