All-Pro Improvements

[kcxiv]

I personally think the graphics look better then the other 2 games. The game just looks more fluid and has a soul. My only complaint with graphics is the grass. the APF grass looks like crap. Thats something very very minor to me, but hey, if its crap, its crap.


I have never seen a football game with such smooth animations as APF. I dont know why people knock it. There is a youtube video out that that compares 2k football and EA football. Go look at that and then say it needs an upgrade.

[Kanobi]

With APF being based on a fictional league, VC really has limitless possibilities in terms of what they could do with a franchise mode. I sent in some stuff to them last July that I don't think has been done before. If they're ever implemented then I think most APF fans would be happy. We shall see.

[Sausage]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kanobi

With APF being based on a fictional league, VC really has limitless possibilities in terms of what they could do with a franchise mode. I sent in some stuff to them last July that I don't think has been done before. If they're ever implemented then I think most APF fans would be happy. We shall see.

What ideas did you send them?

[granvilleberry]

Ten, maybe fifteen years ago there was a game for the SuperNintendo that was a little bit like Tecmo Bowl, though played with an overhead-diagonal view. The big thing for me, keeping in mind that I was still getting rides from mommy to school back then, was that you could play as high school, college, and pro teams. They were all generic, with names like Oklahoma for U. of Oklahoma and other state schools while a school like Brigham Young would be called Provo State or Utah Mormon College. The pro teams were all named via the city they were in. The uni's weren't spot on (no logos on the helmets as the technology/graphics just weren't there yet), but the colors where all correct and you could manipulate the high school unis. The ability to create/modify the uniforms is my big thing, and an in game logo creator/modifier would be fantastic combined with the already mentioned set-up of generic teams that loosely fit in with the real deal. The gameplay is already great (after playing nothing but NCAA since August and picking up APF this week, I'm sold...at least until I begin playing online where I will ultimately be exposed to the variety of cheap playing style and glitches), I just want a more robust avenue to throw together a 2004 OU squad or any particular NFL team from the '80s. It's frustrating when you're locked in to a set number of team names when you'd rather just type in the name you want and live w/out it being spoken by the play-by-play and color guys.

[jwilson3rd]

all i want is 2k9 to be released.

[turftickler]

1. Complete customization.
2. Silver players need three stars, Bronze players need 2 stars.
3. Generic and created players should get better with everygame they play, but only if they are showing progress in their stats online and offline.
4. Graphics, graphics, graphics!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5. Better pre-game and post game presentation.
6. Actual gameplay videos during halftime show online and offline.
7. Side camera and custom camera,
8. More stadiums.
9. Announcer need to say full names of created players. I know this can be done, because I am a computer software developer myself.
10. People that cheat should be penalized. If they pull their connection, they should receive an automic negative rating and a loss.

[metallicatz]

More Hall of Famers won't do jack to stimulate sales. If having Elway, Sanders, and Rice on the cover doesn't do it then it doesn't matter who you've got in the game. If 2K wants their football game to be relevent then they need to copy Winning Eleven's formula. If you need NFL players and teams to enjoy a football game......then you're not in it for the football. Period.

Get a deep franchise mode in there. Hard numbers prove that more people play offline than online. Many more. 2k f-ed up BIG TIME by leaving out a franchise mode. Maybe next time their staff will be be a bit more PR savvy and avoid saying stupid things like "just shut up and play the damn game" in magazine articles to quell criticism of the lack of features.

If there is a next 2K football game it needs a total makeover. After 5 minutes with APF08 I was playing like a seasoned vet. Why? Because i'd already logged hundreds of games on it........several years before when the game was called NFL2K5. Ditch the ported 4+ year old engine and come to the table with a next gen engine like the rest of the 2K sports titles.

And some of you need to just stop with that nonsense about APF's visuals being the best out there. They're not. They're good, but face reality......they don't compare to Madden in that department anymore. If that "Bears" clip posted earlier is the best you've seen, it just proves you haven't taken a look around at the competition.

[spankdatazz22]

Quote: Originally Posted by metallicatz

Get a deep franchise mode in there. Hard numbers prove that more people play offline than online. Many more. 2k f-ed up BIG TIME by leaving out a franchise mode. Maybe next time their staff will be be a bit more PR savvy and avoid saying stupid things like "just shut up and play the damn game" in magazine articles to quell criticism of the lack of features.

Why try to twist the quote out of context - yet again? They said they were attempting to make the best playing football game to date and that's what they did. The game's biggest problem is something they can do nothing about - it lacks the NFL licenses. I think the game would've been much more successful with the NFL licenses and no franchise than without the license and a deep franchise. Ultimately franchise isn't important if the core game isn't appealing enough to play in the first place.

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If there is a next 2K football game it needs a total makeover. After 5 minutes with APF08 I was playing like a seasoned vet. Why? Because i'd already logged hundreds of games on it........several years before when the game was called NFL2K5. Ditch the ported 4+ year old engine and come to the table with a next gen engine like the rest of the 2K sports titles.

Funny... many people say the NBA2K engine is ported. Yet it's far and away the best basketball game to date - no other game is even close. Change for change's sake makes no sense.

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And some of you need to just stop with that nonsense about APF's visuals being the best out there. They're not. They're good, but face reality......they don't compare to Madden in that department anymore. If that "Bears" clip posted earlier is the best you've seen, it just proves you haven't taken a look around at the competition.

Let's see your gameplay clip then. It's not a matter of the graphics having to be the best - too often people are worried about how light is reflecting off a helmet instead of how the game plays. So, as Madden supposedly looks, there's an awful lot of people dissatisfied with it. It's been discussed at length that many people would've preferred updated last gen visuals and ported gameplay than having to deal with the horrid-bad-mediocre Madden 06/07/08 respectively.