How Terrible Is the Trade Logic?!

[ufer2]

Playing on PS5. I'm waiting for full minors rosters, so haven't started a Franchise yet, but thought I'd poke around it to take my first look. Used the Royals. After looking around, I tried the Trade Finder. Put RF Jorge Solar (C) and SP Danny Duffy (C) up for trade to see what they would fetch. LOOK at what the computer is offering in return ...

BOS - Rafael Devers
NYY - Jasson Dominguez
TB - Tyler Glasnow
TB - Austin Meadows
DET - Akil Baddoo
MIN - Royce Lewis
HOU - Kyle Tucker
SEA - Julio Rodriguez
ATL - Christian Pache
SD - Chris Paddack
SD - McKenzie Gore

I thought SDS said in the lead ups to this release that they were re-evaluating trade logic and putting more value on young elite talent?!

You can literally get any player you want via trade for virtually nothing. I EASILY had a deal in place for Mike Trout. This is absolutely insane.

[strosdood]

Quote: Originally Posted by ufer2

Playing on PS5. I'm waiting for full minors rosters, so haven't started a Franchise yet, but thought I'd poke around it to take my first look. Used the Royals. After looking around, I tried the Trade Finder. Put RF Jorge Solar (C) and SP Danny Duffy (C) up for trade to see what they would fetch. LOOK at what the computer is offering in return ... BOS - Rafael Devers NYY - Jasson Dominguez TB - Tyler Glasnow TB - Austin Meadows DET - Akil Baddoo MIN - Royce Lewis HOU - Kyle Tucker SEA - Julio Rodriguez ATL - Christian Pache SD - Chris Paddack SD - McKenzie Gore I thought SDS said in the lead ups to this release that they were re-evaluating trade logic and putting more value on young elite talent?! You can literally get any player you want via trade for virtually nothing. I EASILY had a deal in place for Mike Trout. This is absolutely insane.

I think context matters here...... what were the teams situations going into these trade proposals? I also have a hard time believing u were able to get Trout for “virtually nothing” most of the players you named are just prospects and you offered 2 veteran solid players although most wouldn’t do any of those trades regardless.......from what I’ve tinkered with I found acquiring legit 80+ guys was pretty difficult


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[legacyme3]

In my first off-season, post March to October, I had similar results.

I ended up with an elite team after an hour of suggested deals.

SP - Nola, Thor, Canning, Ohtani, Deivi Garcia, Luzardo, Mata, McKenzie, Verlander, Hamels, Grayson Rodriguez, Hunter Greene, Woods-Richardson, Patino, Bukauskas, Bernard Goins, Emil Esparza, Alexander Vizcaino, Edward Cabrera, Jake Wong, Matt Kent, Andreas Feliz

RP - Oliver Drake, David Robertson, Tony Watson, Tyler Clippard, Darren O'Day, Chaz Roe, Yusmeiro Petit, Oliver Perez, Sergio Romo, Raynel Espinal, Zack Thompson, Phillips Valdez, Justin Shafer, Alberto Baldonado, Eduard Bazardo, Kaleb Ort

CP - Osuna, Greg Holland, Sandy Lieberthal

C - Molina, Ronaldo Hernadez, Jhonny Pereda, Drew Butera, Austin Rei, Richie Klein

1B - Rafael Devers, Ryan Zimmerman, Yariel Gonzalez, Josh Ockimey, Albert Pujols, Gene Siffel

2B - Trevor Story, Gosuke Katoh, Yeltsin Encarnacion, Chris Jahnkow

3B - Fernando Tatis Jr., Vlad Guerrero Jr (DH), Matt Carpenter, Rex Baca, James Si, Gil Pacheco

SS - Francisco Lindor, Bobby Witt Jr, Wander Franco, Gunnar Henderson, Xavier Edwards, Marco Luciano, Orelvis Martinez

LF - Yordan Alvarez, Tristan Pompey, Jason Scott

CF - Starling Marte, Jasson Dominguez, Albert Almora Jr., Jarred Kelenic, Jo Adell, Anthony Alford, Jameson Hannah, Lewis Brinson, Victor Victor Mesa, Josh Lowe

RF - Juan Soto, Giancarlo Gonzalez, Nelson Cruz, Jesus Sanchez, Hunter Cole, Chad Hendrick

[Finn]

We would need to know player stats into the long term to get an idea if these trades really are poor though.

[Fuimus Troes]

Quote: Originally Posted by Finn

We would need to know player stats into the long term to get an idea if these trades really are poor though.

Not really.

Running a test franchise, going into year 2 with Detroit -- DETROIT -- and I have Trout, Acuna, Jimenez, Vlad, K'Bryan Hayes, Ozzie Albies, Soroka and bunch of other stud pitchers. Also have like 25 of the top 50 prospects (Witt, Franco, etc.).

Trading is broken, massively.

It's good for fantasy rebuilds, though, I suppose...

[rsump112]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fuimus Troes

Not really. Running a test franchise, going into year 2 with Detroit -- DETROIT -- and I have Trout, Acuna, Jimenez, Vlad, K'Bryan Hayes, Ozzie Albies, Soroka and bunch of other stud pitchers. Also have like 25 of the top 50 prospects (Witt, Franco, etc.). Trading is broken, massively. It's good for fantasy rebuilds, though, I suppose...

Yeah, and for people who want to game the CPU instead of trying to at least put up the pretense of trying to trade somewhat realistically.

In my tests, I haven’t seen the CPU make trades so foolish, only people trying to game the system, which you can do if you want, it’s your game.

If 10 year olds and tryhards couldn’t make trades like this, some folks would be pitching a fit because they can’t play like they want to.

Just my .02.

[strosdood]

Quote: Originally Posted by Fuimus Troes

Not really. Running a test franchise, going into year 2 with Detroit -- DETROIT -- and I have Trout, Acuna, Jimenez, Vlad, K'Bryan Hayes, Ozzie Albies, Soroka and bunch of other stud pitchers. Also have like 25 of the top 50 prospects (Witt, Franco, etc.). Trading is broken, massively. It's good for fantasy rebuilds, though, I suppose...

Pics or it didn’t happen, I call BS 🤷🏻*♂️


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[CBoller1331]

Quote: Originally Posted by rsump112

Yeah, and for people who want to game the CPU instead of trying to at least put up the pretense of trying to trade somewhat realistically. In my tests, I haven’t seen the CPU make trades so foolish, only people trying to game the system, which you can do if you want, it’s your game. If 10 year olds and tryhards couldn’t make trades like this, some folks would be pitching a fit because they can’t play like they want to. Just my .02.

Yeah as long as CPU teams are not making these types of trades with each other I am ok with it. Dont get me wrong, I'm sure there is still room for improvement, but I do think the logic is a bit better than it has been in previous years.

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